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#Post#: 2633--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 21, 2015, 9:15 am
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--- Quote from: Poppy link ---
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> When it needs to be done is when God directs you.
Occasionally or once a week; an individual approach is
necessary.
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A Catholic accepts that God directs them through the Church.
They believe that obedience to the Church (which is led by the
Holy Spirit) is also obedience to God. The leaders (Pope,
bishops, priests) are there to help shepherd the faithful. In
this way, Catholics live and act as one people.
#Post#: 2634--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 21, 2015, 9:33 am
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--- Quote from: CatholicCrusader link ---
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> Well, most don't, and I must admit I failed often in that
observance myself.
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> Now I will throw in a personal opinion which I try not to do:
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> Fasting should be a thing of the heart, not to be taken too
literally. What I mean is, don't hurt yourself or make yourself
get sick or dizzy. God doesn't want you to be sick to your
stomach. He know if your intentions are sincere, and if you need
a little bite to stay well then go ahead.
>
>
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Agree. Repentance is definitely a thing of the heart. To be
honest, I felt more energetic while fasting; I think all that
digesting of food, especially in an older body, can steal our
energy. Especially when we choose the wrong foods or overeat.
Self-control in diet can be challenging.
But, yes, good advice. All bodies are different.
Yet, I imagine God will sustain us if we fast in sincere
repentance. Jesus fasted 40 days! When we draw close to God,
He draws close to us. It is actually Christ who strengthens us.
Hence, 'prayer and fasting.'
#Post#: 2637--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 21, 2015, 5:08 pm
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Just watched the video, Poppy, and it did strengthen my resolve
toward Friday fasting. The Church must recognize the power, so
that's great that they encourage it! Perhaps with time and
persistence, Kevin could be helped, as was Marilyn's father.
Nothing I won't try at this point, he's been so sick. Maybe I
could fast Fridays thru Sat. evening after Mass. I think I read
that Catholics used to fast before Mass. I only wish I could
also receive communion.
I related to how she said that fasting actually gives you energy
and clears your head.
I was surprised that Muslims are allowed to gather in a stadium
to listen to a Christian woman speak.
#Post#: 2640--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Kerry
Date: July 22, 2015, 6:00 am
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--- Quote from: CatholicCrusader link ---
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> Well, most don't, and I must admit I failed often in that
observance myself.
>
> Now I will throw in a personal opinion which I try not to do:
>
> Fasting should be a thing of the heart, not to be taken too
literally. What I mean is, don't hurt yourself or make yourself
get sick or dizzy. God doesn't want you to be sick to your
stomach. He knows if your intentions are sincere, and if you
need a little bite to stay well then go ahead.
>
>
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I found something in the canon law agrees with what you said.
Can. 919 §1. A person who is to receive the Most Holy Eucharist
is to abstain for at least one hour before holy communion from
any food and drink, except for only water and medicine.
§2. A priest who celebrates the Most Holy Eucharist two or three
times on the same day can take something before the second or
third celebration even if there is less than one hour between
them.
§3. The elderly, the infirm, and those who care for them can
receive the Most Holy Eucharist even if they have eaten
something within the preceding hour.
That makes sense. You shouldn't ask people to put themselves at
some health risk. (I still can't believe how some Muslims
were fainting and some even dying in India because they refused
to drink water during Ramadan.)
I've read that Catholics used to start fasting the previous
Saturday night after the last meal -- no later than midnight.
That got changed by Vatican II or Pope Paul, I think. Some
Eastern Catholics still do that, and I think the Orthodox do.
#Post#: 2662--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 24, 2015, 2:33 pm
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My first Friday fast, today.
I'll fast from solid foods, again.
I think, honestly, there are health benefits, as well as
spiritual, to a one-day-a-week fast. I think I'll stay on the
fast til after Mass on Saturday evening. Yes, I will.
I've recently rejoined the gym, too, because I so miss working
out and the release it gives me. I've been there only once, and
it seemed so hard after being away several months. And I'm
sore! But, it will get easier again. And I need the energy
boost it gives me. They enlarged the weight area, and added a
couple of new machines.
I love the gym and working out.
And I love going to Mass, too. :)
Now, to find out about RICA . . .
#Post#: 2663--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: CatholicCrusader
Date: July 24, 2015, 3:02 pm
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--- Quote from: Piper link ---
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> .. . . . .Now, to find out about RICA . . .[/font][/size]
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You mean RCIA. - LOL
Fun articles:
HTML http://www.catholic.com/search/content/rcia
How's "The Lamb's Supper" going?
#Post#: 2664--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 24, 2015, 6:00 pm
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Yes. Right. RCIA. Just making sure you're paying attention.
;)
Book is fascinating thus far. I love how he described
witnessing his first Mass, that he'd been taught the Mass was
the "ultimate sacrilege" a human could commit. He went armed
with his Bible.
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> As the Mass moved on, however, something hit me. My Bible
wasn't just beside me. It was before me--in the words of the
Mass! One line was from Isaiah, another from the Psalms,
another from Paul. The experience was overwhelming. I wanted
to stop everything and shout, "Hey, can I explain what's
happening from Scripture? This is great!" Still, I maintained
my observer status. I remained on the sidelines until I heard
the priest pronounce the words of the consecration: "This is My
body . . . This is the cup of my blood."
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> Then I felt all my doubt drain away. As I saw the priest
raise that white host, I felt a prayer surge from my heart in a
whisper: "My Lord and my God. That's really you!"
--- End Quote ---
I love that we can study over the Readings before Mass, and make
a point of doing that.
My tummy is protesting my fast. Need to go have some almond
milk. (I know . . . 'How do you milk an almond?!') ;D
Better go get something done, too, or I won't make it to the
gym.
Love the book, though. So thanks. And thanks for paving the
path to the Church for me. I feel much better knowing you
checked things out ahead of time. :-* I'm lucky to have you as
a friend.
#Post#: 2665--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: CatholicCrusader
Date: July 24, 2015, 6:59 pm
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^ Yep, you quoted one of the best spots in the book.
#Post#: 2666--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Kerry
Date: July 24, 2015, 7:50 pm
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--- Quote from: Piper link ---
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> My tummy is protesting my fast. Need to go have some almond
milk. (I know . . . 'How do you milk an almond?!') ;D
>
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With great difficulty. Almond milk is in the news again at
Salon.com
HTML http://www.salon.com/2015/07/22/almond_milk_is_even_more_of_a_scam_than_we_thought/<br
/>--July 22, 2015:
Remember when we suggested (okay, aggregated an article that
suggested) that almond milk is “kind of a scam“?
Well, a class action lawsuit filed against the makers of Almond
Breeze for false advertising contends that the popular milk
alternative is even more of a rip-off than we thought — because
it barely contains any almonds.
Just two percent almonds, to be exact. The rest is just carton
filler. (Hey, there’s no breeze in there either!) Blue Diamond
doesn’t make that information publicly available in the U.S.,
but the plaintiffs found the information they were looking for
on the company’s U.K. website. Of course, not even homemade
almond milk is expected consist entirely, or even mostly, of
almonds. But according to Food Navigator, the plaintiffs contend
that based “upon an extensive review of the recipes for almond
milk on the internet,” a reasonable amount of almond to expect
is somewhere between 25 to 33 percent.
And they say Blue Diamond, by putting big pictures of almonds on
its cartons of the beverage it calls almond milk and using “made
from real almonds” as its slogan, is “leading people to believe
that the products are made primarily from almonds,” which, as
we’ve learned, they are not.
Then they say there has been controversy over whether almond
milk should be called milk:
This isn’t the first time the almond milk industry’s come under
legal fire. Previous lawsuits have taken issue with labels
identifying the product as “all-natural,” “non-GMO” and even
“milk
HTML http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/10173-judge-dismisses-implausible-soymilk-mislabeling-class-action-lawsuit/.”<br
/>But this newest attack has strong precedent in the case that
POM
Wonderful, which is one hundred percent pomegranate, launched
against Coca-Cola’s “Pomegranate Blueberry” drink, made with 0.3
percent pomegranate and 0.2 percent blueberry juice. The Supreme
Court got to have its say with that one, and it determined that
the label, while not technically illegal, was “misleading” and
“deceptive,” and thus counted as false advertising.
Following that link to the lawsuit over "milk" to
topclassactions.com
HTML http://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/10173-judge-dismisses-implausible-soymilk-mislabeling-class-action-lawsuit/:<br
/>
A California federal judge has dismissed a proposed class action
lawsuit alleging that Dean Foods Co., WhiteWave Foods Co. and
Horizon Organic Dairy mislabeled their plant-based milk products
as milk when they do not come from cows, finding that this
allegation “stretches the bounds of credulity.”
The products at issue in the class action lawsuit were Silk
Soymilk, Silk Almond Milk, Silk Coconut Milk, Horizon Organic
Yogurt, and Horizon Organic Vanilla Lowfat Milk, among others.
Plaintiffs Alex Ang and Kevin Avoy argued in their class action
lawsuit that the defendants’ products were misbranded for
several reasons. First, the plaintiffs argued that the soymilk,
almond milk and coconut milk products were misbranded because
they do not fall under the FDA’s definition of “milk,” which
defines milk as a substance that comes from lactating cows.
#Post#: 2669--------------------------------------------------
Re: The importance of prayer and fasting
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 24, 2015, 11:32 pm
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Ha. Too many almonds and you'd have almond butter--and that's
not made with real butter, either. If you read the label on
almond milk it's quite nutritious, low fat, no cholesterol, and
low calorie. I can't have real milk, or soy, so it's a good
alternative on cereal or for cooking. The chocolate variety is
surprisingly good.
Gotta run--T-storm warning
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