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Re: Thoughts
By: Kerry Date: December 8, 2014, 6:45 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=30.msg314#msg314 date=1418055517]
Another thought...when Mark 16 says ""The one who believes and
is baptised will be saved..."
We know that we are saved by grace through faith...nothing of
works.....so why has Mark stuck baptism in there? Was it just
his own personal view?
What has baptism got to do with our salvation? Thousands don't
get time ( or have the knowledge) to get
baptised....[/quote]There is the physical act of using physical
water -- and then there is spiritual baptism. It's the
spiritual baptism that is essential. I believe one will not
receive the Holy Spirit without having the heart made soft.
The value of physical baptism is both mental and emotional
since the person is inviting God to act. If it's a baby, the
parents are inviting God to act. The person being baptized does
not really know what is going to happen. He is trusting God to
act. That's what happened in my case anyway.
I'd say it has no value at all if people's intentions are
wrong. They might as well stay home in their bathtubs.
I also believe the thief on the cross was baptized spiritually
by Jesus. Jesus did not baptize anyone himself using physical
water; but I believe he did baptize the thief spiritually --
with the water and blood from his side.
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Re: Thoughts
By: Ivor1 Date: December 9, 2014, 11:47 am
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I got baptised (in water) because I wanted to, not as a
condition of salvation. I think no less of my unbaptised (in
water) brothers and sisters in the faith. Those gone before,
those living in the present or those future bothers yet to fully
accept Christ and the baptism of the Holy Spirit when in that
moment they are fully my brothers. Water baptism lies with their
view of it in their time and is not my concern
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Re: Thoughts
By: Helen Date: December 9, 2014, 3:55 pm
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Oh I totally agree with both posts here...I just don't
understand why it is linked to "salvation" in the Mark
scripture. It makes it sound like "The Cross-PLUS "
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