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Re: Gay Marriage
DIR By: Kerry
Date: July 23, 2015, 3:37 pm
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> Kerry - ALL married couples are asked to be open to life, if
it comes, or if it doesn't come, either way naturally, and not
artificially alter God's life-giving plan. I can promise you
with 110% certainty that the Catechism and the Church in no way
is against older people getting married.
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The rule seems to be you can marry if you can have vaginal
intercourse; but you can't marry if not.
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Re: Gay Marriage
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 23, 2015, 3:46 pm
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What Kerry proposes, if I understand, would seem to keep
(religious) marriage in a sacred class of its own by being "open
to life."
All other unions would be civil unions. A second marriage
between those of faith would then allow them to live together in
companionship, while not interfering with the sacred
open-to-life first marriage.
Does that make sense?
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Re: Gay Marriage
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 23, 2015, 4:47 pm
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--- Quote from: Kerry link ---
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> The rule seems to be you can marry if you can have ****l
intercourse; but you can't marry if not.
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Well, that raises the question of to what age can people still .
. . you know . . . umm, yeah, no, never mind. I've really no
idea.
But certainly to the very elderly, marriage is primarily for
companionship.
Does the Catholic Church perform 2nd marriages for the elderly
who have both lost their original partners, even though the
marriage would in no way 'be open to life'?
Forever is forever, so a civil union would make more sense, I
think, for the 2nd marriage.
Or is it that sexual intercourse within a marriage must be open
to life-- not the marriage itself, per se?
This is probably why women should remain silent on Christian
forums, haha. :D. Am I being stupid? Entirely possible.
#Post#: 2655--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gay Marriage
DIR By: Kerry
Date: July 23, 2015, 5:46 pm
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--- Quote from: Piper link ---
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> What Kerry proposes, if I understand, would seem to keep
(religious) marriage in a sacred class of its own by being "open
to life."
>
> All other unions would be civil unions. A second marriage
between those of faith would then allow them to live together in
companionship, while not interfering with the sacred
open-to-life first marriage.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
>
>
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Yes, that's it. I think the government should get out of
telling us who's married. The state should deal with the
secular side of things -- civil unions for people who want
them. I also don't think civil unions should mean there's
romance or sex going on. Say some young man moves in with his
grandmother to take care of her. They agree to be responsible
for each other. He takes care of her -- saving taxpayers money.
Why shouldn't he be able to inherit her house without paying
inheritance taxes?
Or two maiden aunts who adopt their orphaned nephews and nieces.
Why shouldn't they get tax benefits the way married couples
do? Why can't they have a civil union that could benefit them
and the children? Why does everything have to be about sex?
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Re: Gay Marriage
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 23, 2015, 8:06 pm
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Do they do that (civil unions) in Britain?
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