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       Ideas  
       By: Kerry Date: June 4, 2015, 11:23 am
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       I believe ideas can take up space.  If you create a thought, you
       are projecting a mental picture of things out into space.   If
       we have the know-how and the right power, we can make what is
       true in the mental space true also in the physical.   Id' say
       both blessings and curses operate that way -- first as mental
       pictures, and then possibly as real events in the physical
       world.
       Thus we pray, "Thy kingdom come, thy Will be done on earth as it
       is in Heaven."  In many ways,  the Kingdom has already arrived
       on the mental plane and exists as ideas that occupy space.
       Do ideas have mass?  Not physical mass, but they have mental
       mass.  Headaches are often  the result of two conflicting ideas.
       Their mental masses collide.   Neither can become true on the
       physical plane.   Being  double-minded is a big obstacle to
       having the kingdom manifest on the physical plane in time and
       space.
       Some people are so surrounded by conflicting ideas, it's like
       being in a dark cloud when you're around them.  I knew one
       fellow once that the feeling of gloom was so intense around him,
       it seemed to me the room would get darker when he entered it.
       Of course, he was trying to project that into the physical
       plane.
       How ideas exist also relates I think to the other matter we were
       discussing -- can people create demons?   I could go into that
       in more detail.  People might find it shocking that I could say
       I know how it's done; but perhaps I should talk about it.
       Perhaps people do similar things without knowing it.   If one
       knows how to create demons, one can also whip up good ideas and
       send them forth into the world like birds.    One can even begin
       to communicate with spirits from outside our solar system using
       a similar method.   Yes, the heavens talk to us; and we can talk
       to them too.
       There is also an exercise where the person calls back all the
       "black birds" he sent out.  We have all created ideas that harm
       the world and even the universe.    This saps the spiritual
       strength.   It's a simple thing to call them back.
       Should I go on?  What direction should I take?  Practical or
       theoretical?   I think I prefer the practical.  People can try
       things and see what results they get.  Then they can judge the
       theory for themselves.
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       Re: Ideas  
       By: Piper Date: June 4, 2015, 1:10 pm
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       [quote]If we have the know-how and the right power[/quote]
       [font=trebuchet ms]What kind of "power" are we talking about?
       
       Hmmm . . .
       [quote]People might find it shocking that I could say I know how
       it's done (create demons)
       [/quote]
       [size=12pt][font=trebuchet ms]You think?  Umm . . . yes, I'd
       have to agree.[/font]
       [quote] If one knows how to create demons, one can also whip up
       good ideas and send them forth into the world like
       birds.[/quote]
       [font=trebuchet ms]Kerry, I've read it three times, and am still
       wrapping my mind around it.
       Are you saying in order to send forth the good ideas (like
       birds), we first need to know how to "create demons"?  Or are
       you saying we already create demons without knowing we do it?
       My thought is we maybe "feed demons" without knowing it, but
       "create" them?
       Ummm . . . this is kinda what I was talking about?  Not many
       Christians are gonna come play, methinks.
       [/font]
       [quote]One can even begin to communicate with spirits from
       outside our solar system[/quote]
       [font=trebuchet ms]Now you KNOW folks are gonna think, "Yikes!"
       Explain why we shouldn't?  I mean, yes we pray, we ask for
       intercession, but, "communicate"?  With "spirits"?  You mean
       like have a lengthy conversation concerning world events or
       spiritual realms?  Like Ouija board communication?   Or what?
       I've raised black birds and set them free, but never "called
       them back".  Black birds?  Kinda bugs me when people use
       innocent creatures as symbols of dark things (ideas that harm
       the world and even the universe).  Just saying.
       Are you smoking funny little cigs?   ;)
       
       What ride are you inviting us on? 8)
       No offense intended . . . I mean, I know you know you're a bit
       "out of the box" with this one.  Right?[/font]
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       Re: Ideas  
       By: Piper Date: June 4, 2015, 1:21 pm
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       [font=trebuchet ms]And . . . may be unrelated . . . but I had
       one of those "pursuit dreams" this morning.  You know, where
       someone is pursuing you, and you're racing from room to room, or
       up and down endless corridors and stairs, trying to get away
       from someone trying to kill you, type-thing?  You wake up, truly
       out of breath?
       So, may be why I'm a bit creeped out.
       That and I'm developing insomnia lately, which I've never had.
       Watched the pouring rain out my window most of the night.
       [/font]
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       Re: Ideas  
       By: bradley Date: June 4, 2015, 1:33 pm
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       Not all things permissible are beneficial.   Many years ago
       after I cast two evil spirits out of a house, I wanted to go
       anywhere where there were problem spirits and get rid of them.
       After my first encounter with them I felt really strong in
       spiritual power and wanted to use that power for good against
       evil spirits (and I have sensed many of them, another gift of
       mine).   But the Lord told me "no", so I didnt, trusting that
       the Lord had good reason for me not to use that power.   Jesus
       and the disciples did it regularly, so I know its permissible,
       but the Lord said no.   I can and have speculated about why the
       Lord said no, and I think that one or many of my speculations
       are no doubt right, but regardless of why, you have to do what
       the Lord wants of us if we want to say we love Him.
       #Post#: 2229--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas  
       By: Kerry Date: June 4, 2015, 2:10 pm
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       [quote author=bradley link=topic=258.msg2228#msg2228
       date=1433442788]
       Not all things permissible are beneficial.   Many years ago
       after I cast two evil spirits out of a house, I wanted to go
       anywhere where there were problem spirits and get rid of them.
       After my first encounter with them I felt really strong in
       spiritual power and wanted to use that power for good against
       evil spirits (and I have sensed many of them, another gift of
       mine).   But the Lord told me "no", so I didnt, trusting that
       the Lord had good reason for me not to use that power.   Jesus
       and the disciples did it regularly, so I know its permissible,
       but the Lord said no.   I can and have speculated about why the
       Lord said no, and I think that one or many of my speculations
       are no doubt right, but regardless of why, you have to do what
       the Lord wants of us if we want to say we love Him.
       [/quote]I am not sure it is always permissible to go around
       casting out evil spirits.   If the people in the house attracted
       them there and invited them in, you could be interfering their
       free will and interfering with the demons too who are there
       lawfully because the humans asked for them.    You could become
       entangled with those people and get over your head.   And since
       you opposed their free will, they could interfere with yours.
       I think trying to do this could be a way of inviting demonic
       attacks.   I've known a few people who fell into this pattern of
       casting out demons -- perceived or real, I don't know -- perhaps
       at first they were real; but later I think they began imagining
       things -- perhaps the demons had confused them.  I knew a girl
       whose mother thought her microwave oven was possessed and she
       exorcised it.  The woman was losing her mind.
       Another danger posed by this is it can lead to pride.   Let us
       remember that if God wanted rid of all the demons,  He could do
       it easily enough.   They are here to teach us a lesson.   It's
       up to us to decide if we will worship God or the Dark Side.   If
       people summon the demonic,  let them pay the price for it until
       they are weary of it.   But you see people going around treating
       demons with contempt -- that is pride at work.
       Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh,
       despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
       9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he
       disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a
       railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
       #Post#: 2231--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ideas  
       By: Kerry Date: June 4, 2015, 2:44 pm
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       [quote author=Piper link=topic=258.msg2226#msg2226
       date=1433442105]
       [font=trebuchet ms]And . . . may be unrelated . . . but I had
       one of those "pursuit dreams" this morning.  You know, where
       someone is pursuing you, and you're racing from room to room, or
       up and down endless corridors and stairs, trying to get away
       from someone trying to kill you, type-thing?  You wake up, truly
       out of breath?
       So, may be why I'm a bit creeped out.
       That and I'm developing insomnia lately, which I've never had.
       Watched the pouring rain out my window most of the
       night.[/font][/quote]
       Those "things" tend to be "mere ideas" -- mental demons that
       either you created and which is coming back to haunt you or
       that someone else created up and which is just wandering about.
       
       If you ever can remember to do it -- if the dream is lucid --
       get in the  Light, turn and act as if you're going to touch
       them.  They will generally run.     They are afraid of you.  If
       you do touch them, they vanish like a puff of smoke.
       I've seen it done, and I  would have done it but they always
       ran away.   There is nothing to them except the mental energy
       being projected -- and running amok, loose.     You could also
       command them to return to the person who created them.
       You can also "catch" them if you're not afraid of them.   If
       someone is sending "demons" to plague you, they are part of him
       -- part of his mind.  If you trap them -- and it's lawful to do
       -- if he wants to send you energy, by all means you have the
       right to accept it and keep it.    This is not advised however
       unless you know how to "digest" them -- and that depends on what
       Catholics call the Sacred Heart and the Buddhists call the Wish
       Fulfilling Jewel -- the  heart when operating correctly can
       absorb negative energy and purify it.   Anyone can learn how to
       do this; but often at first, the person needs help himself by
       having Jesus take some of his negative mental energy and passing
       it through his heart and returning it.      Mary can do it,
       Buddha can, anyone can.
       Buddhists know about these "created things."  They call them
       tulpas.   Kabbalists know about them; and from kabbalism,  the
       magical societies around today got their information about them.
       
       But if you can ever remember,  those things that chase you in
       dreams are afraid of being touched themselves if you are in the
       Light.   The Light of God evaporates  them.
       I used to go to parties in Paris when asleep.  I was at a party
       one night when I noticed this short man following this
       unpleasant "being" out of the main room and back through other
       rooms.   He did not want to let me see what he was doing, but I
       told him I wasn't leaving -- so he touched the "thing" which
       looked like a  man -- and the man just vanished.
       So why do they chase people?   Ah, they are trying to steal the
       Light of God  but they can't take the Light as Light.  That's
       poison to them.   If they can get someone into fear, that person
       will give off Light but in a darkened down form  --  the energy
       of  any negative emotion is what they want to get from people.
       Without a supply of energy, eventually they would "expire"
       since they certainly aren't immortal.
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       Re: Ideas  
       By: Piper Date: June 4, 2015, 3:34 pm
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       [font=trebuchet ms]Missed post # 1?
       Did I offend you?[/font]
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       Re: Ideas  
       By: Kerry Date: June 4, 2015, 3:36 pm
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       [quote author=Piper link=topic=258.msg2232#msg2232
       date=1433450098]
       [font=trebuchet ms]Missed post # 1?
       Did I offend you?[/font]
       [/quote]No, just typing  a long post, ha.
       [quote author=Piper link=topic=258.msg2225#msg2225
       date=1433441425]
       What kind of "power" are we talking about?
       
       Hmmm . . . [/quote]
       The power to think.   My own mind is not what it used to be.
       Aging takes something out of people.  Sickness does.  But there
       are other things that do too.  Stress.   Drugs.    A variety of
       things.
       Some things are  under our control however.  The thing I'll rail
       about now is being dualistic or double-minded.   People seem to
       think they can go in opposite directions at the same time -- or
       hold contradictory views --  it leads to having an unstable
       mind.    Waffling.
       You think?  Umm . . . yes, I'd have to agree.
       [quote]Kerry, I've read it three times, and am still wrapping my
       mind around it.
       Are you saying in order to send forth the good ideas (like
       birds), we first need to know how to "create demons"?  Or are
       you saying we already create demons without knowing we do it?
       My thought is we maybe "feed demons" without knowing it, but
       "create" them?   [/quote]
       The process is the same.   There have been times when I can tell
       someone is thinking about me -- and I can tell if it's negative
       or positive.  Sometimes I can pick up what the thought is.
       Most of those kinds of thought don not have a  visual component
       or even an auditory one.
       Yes, I think people do already create demons without knowing
       about it.   That's the reason it's dangerous to go to sleep
       angry with someone.   It is possible to go to sleep and create a
       demon by projecting evil thoughts.  It is possible to do real
       damage to someone; and if someone is doing this, obviously  it
       also opens him to attack himself since the door is open.
       [quote]Now you KNOW folks are gonna think, "Yikes!"  Explain why
       we shouldn't?  I mean, yes we pray, we ask for intercession,
       but, "communicate"?  With "spirits"?  You mean like have a
       lengthy conversation concerning world events or spiritual
       realms?  Like Ouija board communication?   Or what?[/quote]
       Not like that at all.  The whole universe is alive.   I think if
       God knows the names of all the stars and calls them by name,
       there's probably little harm in it.
       Sad to say though, there are some very nasty places in the
       universe.    In other star systems, there are planets more
       degraded than this one.
       [quote]I've raised black birds and set them free, but never
       "called them back".  Black birds?  Kinda bugs me when people use
       innocent creatures as symbols of dark things (ideas that harm
       the world and even the universe).  Just saying.
       Are you smoking funny little cigs?   ;)[/quote]
       I have a great affinity for black birds myself.
       
       [quote]What ride are you inviting us on? 8)
       No offense intended . . . I mean, I know you know you're a bit
       "out of the box" with this one.  Right?[/quote]
       People can stay in their boxes if they want.    They can refuse
       to believe me, and they can keep on believing they can be
       double-minded, mixing a little evil with good and have
       everything turn out okay.    But I am saying we should learn to
       discipline our minds even if we don't want to send things out
       into the world.
       In fact,  people sending thoughts out into the world weakens
       them.   There are some people with little bits of their mind
       scattered all over the place.   There's often some truth to
       figures of speech -- and scatterbrained is almost the truth but
       it's their minds being scattered not their brains.
       Oh my, I knew a man who was depressed so bad he started
       projecting thought into matter.  He ruined the electric stove.
       All four elements went kaput.   When I walked into his house, I
       could feel the negativity oozing from the walls.   He wasn't
       stupid.   In fact, he came from a good family, had a good
       education and a very good job; but stress got to him, he got on
       pills -- and went scatterbrained.
       At Scientology, they have a routine that teaches people how to
       project ideas into other people's minds.   Now I didn't know
       that when I went down to talk to someone; but I could tell the
       idea "I want to take this Scientology class" was in my mind but
       I also knew I hadn't created that thought.   I could tell he
       was.   That had never happened to me before; and I hadn't even
       heard of it before; but I went home and told my friend I wasn't
       going to take the class because I felt as if the guy had put the
       thought into my mind and I didn't like it since it didn't seem
       honest.   My friend admitted they knew how to do it and the guy
       shouldn't have done it.   (That guy later got into trouble, by
       the way.  I think perhaps my friend reported him.)    Then I
       went to another location.
       The exercise is simple.   Get an ashtray and put a thought in
       it.
       I can't stand to wear gold by the way.   It has always made me
       uncomfortable.   I finally figured out why.   I can't stand all
       the "thoughts" and "emotions" in it.  Over the centuries,  too
       much negativity has been directed at gold and the gold absorbed
       it.
       Gold should be clear!   Spiritual gold is.  Physical gold would
       be too if there wasn't so much "sinful" energy tied up in it.
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       Re: Ideas  
       By: Kerry Date: June 4, 2015, 3:41 pm
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       At some point, perhaps we should discuss "shadows" in the Bible
       and the concept of "overshadowing."
       In the "image of God" is an interesting phrase since "image" is
       "tselem" coming from the word "to shade" or cast a shadow.   An
       outline.
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       Re: Ideas  
       By: Piper Date: June 4, 2015, 3:54 pm
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       [font=trebuchet ms]I don't have an ash tray.
       And how would I "put a thought" in it?  And why?
       Who's waffling?
       (This seems a strange conversation.)
       My cats are projecting images of empty food bowls.
       Thunder, rain, and more thunder and rain.  Perfect.  Sets the
       mood.[/font]
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