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Ideas
DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 4, 2015, 11:23 am
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I believe ideas can take up space. If you create a thought, you
are projecting a mental picture of things out into space. If
we have the know-how and the right power, we can make what is
true in the mental space true also in the physical. Id' say
both blessings and curses operate that way -- first as mental
pictures, and then possibly as real events in the physical
world.
Thus we pray, "Thy kingdom come, thy Will be done on earth as it
is in Heaven." In many ways, the Kingdom has already arrived
on the mental plane and exists as ideas that occupy space.
Do ideas have mass? Not physical mass, but they have mental
mass. Headaches are often the result of two conflicting ideas.
Their mental masses collide. Neither can become true on the
physical plane. Being double-minded is a big obstacle to
having the kingdom manifest on the physical plane in time and
space.
Some people are so surrounded by conflicting ideas, it's like
being in a dark cloud when you're around them. I knew one
fellow once that the feeling of gloom was so intense around him,
it seemed to me the room would get darker when he entered it.
Of course, he was trying to project that into the physical
plane.
How ideas exist also relates I think to the other matter we were
discussing -- can people create demons? I could go into that
in more detail. People might find it shocking that I could say
I know how it's done; but perhaps I should talk about it.
Perhaps people do similar things without knowing it. If one
knows how to create demons, one can also whip up good ideas and
send them forth into the world like birds. One can even begin
to communicate with spirits from outside our solar system using
a similar method. Yes, the heavens talk to us; and we can talk
to them too.
There is also an exercise where the person calls back all the
"black birds" he sent out. We have all created ideas that harm
the world and even the universe. This saps the spiritual
strength. It's a simple thing to call them back.
Should I go on? What direction should I take? Practical or
theoretical? I think I prefer the practical. People can try
things and see what results they get. Then they can judge the
theory for themselves.
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Piper
Date: June 4, 2015, 1:10 pm
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> If we have the know-how and the right power
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What kind of "power" are we talking about?
Hmmm . . .
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> People might find it shocking that I could say I know how it's
done (create demons)
>
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[size=12pt][font=trebuchet ms]You think? Umm . . . yes, I'd
have to agree.
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> If one knows how to create demons, one can also whip up good
ideas and send them forth into the world like birds.
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Kerry, I've read it three times, and am still wrapping my mind
around it.
Are you saying in order to send forth the good ideas (like
birds), we first need to know how to "create demons"? Or are
you saying we already create demons without knowing we do it?
My thought is we maybe "feed demons" without knowing it, but
"create" them?
Ummm . . . this is kinda what I was talking about? Not many
Christians are gonna come play, methinks.
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> One can even begin to communicate with spirits from outside
our solar system
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Now you KNOW folks are gonna think, "Yikes!" Explain why we
shouldn't? I mean, yes we pray, we ask for intercession, but,
"communicate"? With "spirits"? You mean like have a lengthy
conversation concerning world events or spiritual realms? Like
Ouija board communication? Or what?
I've raised black birds and set them free, but never "called
them back". Black birds? Kinda bugs me when people use
innocent creatures as symbols of dark things (ideas that harm
the world and even the universe). Just saying.
Are you smoking funny little cigs? ;)
What ride are you inviting us on? 8)
No offense intended . . . I mean, I know you know you're a bit
"out of the box" with this one. Right?
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Piper
Date: June 4, 2015, 1:21 pm
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And . . . may be unrelated . . . but I had one of those "pursuit
dreams" this morning. You know, where someone is pursuing you,
and you're racing from room to room, or up and down endless
corridors and stairs, trying to get away from someone trying to
kill you, type-thing? You wake up, truly out of breath?
So, may be why I'm a bit creeped out.
That and I'm developing insomnia lately, which I've never had.
Watched the pouring rain out my window most of the night.
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: bradley
Date: June 4, 2015, 1:33 pm
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Not all things permissible are beneficial. Many years ago
after I cast two evil spirits out of a house, I wanted to go
anywhere where there were problem spirits and get rid of them.
After my first encounter with them I felt really strong in
spiritual power and wanted to use that power for good against
evil spirits (and I have sensed many of them, another gift of
mine). But the Lord told me "no", so I didnt, trusting that
the Lord had good reason for me not to use that power. Jesus
and the disciples did it regularly, so I know its permissible,
but the Lord said no. I can and have speculated about why the
Lord said no, and I think that one or many of my speculations
are no doubt right, but regardless of why, you have to do what
the Lord wants of us if we want to say we love Him.
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 4, 2015, 2:10 pm
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--- Quote from: bradley link ---
>
> Not all things permissible are beneficial. Many years ago
after I cast two evil spirits out of a house, I wanted to go
anywhere where there were problem spirits and get rid of them.
After my first encounter with them I felt really strong in
spiritual power and wanted to use that power for good against
evil spirits (and I have sensed many of them, another gift of
mine). But the Lord told me "no", so I didnt, trusting that
the Lord had good reason for me not to use that power. Jesus
and the disciples did it regularly, so I know its permissible,
but the Lord said no. I can and have speculated about why the
Lord said no, and I think that one or many of my speculations
are no doubt right, but regardless of why, you have to do what
the Lord wants of us if we want to say we love Him.
>
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I am not sure it is always permissible to go around casting out
evil spirits. If the people in the house attracted them there
and invited them in, you could be interfering their free will
and interfering with the demons too who are there lawfully
because the humans asked for them. You could become entangled
with those people and get over your head. And since you
opposed their free will, they could interfere with yours.
I think trying to do this could be a way of inviting demonic
attacks. I've known a few people who fell into this pattern of
casting out demons -- perceived or real, I don't know -- perhaps
at first they were real; but later I think they began imagining
things -- perhaps the demons had confused them. I knew a girl
whose mother thought her microwave oven was possessed and she
exorcised it. The woman was losing her mind.
Another danger posed by this is it can lead to pride. Let us
remember that if God wanted rid of all the demons, He could do
it easily enough. They are here to teach us a lesson. It's
up to us to decide if we will worship God or the Dark Side. If
people summon the demonic, let them pay the price for it until
they are weary of it. But you see people going around treating
demons with contempt -- that is pride at work.
Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh,
despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he
disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a
railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 4, 2015, 2:44 pm
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--- Quote from: Piper link ---
>
> And . . . may be unrelated . . . but I had one of those
"pursuit dreams" this morning. You know, where someone is
pursuing you, and you're racing from room to room, or up and
down endless corridors and stairs, trying to get away from
someone trying to kill you, type-thing? You wake up, truly out
of breath?
>
> So, may be why I'm a bit creeped out.
>
> That and I'm developing insomnia lately, which I've never had.
Watched the pouring rain out my window most of the night.
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Those "things" tend to be "mere ideas" -- mental demons that
either you created and which is coming back to haunt you or
that someone else created up and which is just wandering about.
If you ever can remember to do it -- if the dream is lucid --
get in the Light, turn and act as if you're going to touch
them. They will generally run. They are afraid of you. If
you do touch them, they vanish like a puff of smoke.
I've seen it done, and I would have done it but they always
ran away. There is nothing to them except the mental energy
being projected -- and running amok, loose. You could also
command them to return to the person who created them.
You can also "catch" them if you're not afraid of them. If
someone is sending "demons" to plague you, they are part of him
-- part of his mind. If you trap them -- and it's lawful to do
-- if he wants to send you energy, by all means you have the
right to accept it and keep it. This is not advised however
unless you know how to "digest" them -- and that depends on what
Catholics call the Sacred Heart and the Buddhists call the Wish
Fulfilling Jewel -- the heart when operating correctly can
absorb negative energy and purify it. Anyone can learn how to
do this; but often at first, the person needs help himself by
having Jesus take some of his negative mental energy and passing
it through his heart and returning it. Mary can do it,
Buddha can, anyone can.
Buddhists know about these "created things." They call them
tulpas. Kabbalists know about them; and from kabbalism, the
magical societies around today got their information about them.
But if you can ever remember, those things that chase you in
dreams are afraid of being touched themselves if you are in the
Light. The Light of God evaporates them.
I used to go to parties in Paris when asleep. I was at a party
one night when I noticed this short man following this
unpleasant "being" out of the main room and back through other
rooms. He did not want to let me see what he was doing, but I
told him I wasn't leaving -- so he touched the "thing" which
looked like a man -- and the man just vanished.
So why do they chase people? Ah, they are trying to steal the
Light of God but they can't take the Light as Light. That's
poison to them. If they can get someone into fear, that person
will give off Light but in a darkened down form -- the energy
of any negative emotion is what they want to get from people.
Without a supply of energy, eventually they would "expire"
since they certainly aren't immortal.
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Piper
Date: June 4, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Missed post # 1?
Did I offend you?
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 4, 2015, 3:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Piper link ---
>
> Missed post # 1?
>
> Did I offend you?
>
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No, just typing a long post, ha.
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>
>
> What kind of "power" are we talking about?
>
> Hmmm . . .
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The power to think. My own mind is not what it used to be.
Aging takes something out of people. Sickness does. But there
are other things that do too. Stress. Drugs. A variety of
things.
Some things are under our control however. The thing I'll rail
about now is being dualistic or double-minded. People seem to
think they can go in opposite directions at the same time -- or
hold contradictory views -- it leads to having an unstable
mind. Waffling.
You think? Umm . . . yes, I'd have to agree.
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> Kerry, I've read it three times, and am still wrapping my mind
around it.
>
> Are you saying in order to send forth the good ideas (like
birds), we first need to know how to "create demons"? Or are
you saying we already create demons without knowing we do it?
My thought is we maybe "feed demons" without knowing it, but
"create" them?
--- End Quote ---
The process is the same. There have been times when I can tell
someone is thinking about me -- and I can tell if it's negative
or positive. Sometimes I can pick up what the thought is.
Most of those kinds of thought don not have a visual component
or even an auditory one.
Yes, I think people do already create demons without knowing
about it. That's the reason it's dangerous to go to sleep
angry with someone. It is possible to go to sleep and create a
demon by projecting evil thoughts. It is possible to do real
damage to someone; and if someone is doing this, obviously it
also opens him to attack himself since the door is open.
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> Now you KNOW folks are gonna think, "Yikes!" Explain why we
shouldn't? I mean, yes we pray, we ask for intercession, but,
"communicate"? With "spirits"? You mean like have a lengthy
conversation concerning world events or spiritual realms? Like
Ouija board communication? Or what?
--- End Quote ---
Not like that at all. The whole universe is alive. I think if
God knows the names of all the stars and calls them by name,
there's probably little harm in it.
Sad to say though, there are some very nasty places in the
universe. In other star systems, there are planets more
degraded than this one.
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> I've raised black birds and set them free, but never "called
them back". Black birds? Kinda bugs me when people use
innocent creatures as symbols of dark things (ideas that harm
the world and even the universe). Just saying.
>
> Are you smoking funny little cigs? ;)
--- End Quote ---
I have a great affinity for black birds myself.
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> What ride are you inviting us on? 8)
>
> No offense intended . . . I mean, I know you know you're a bit
"out of the box" with this one. Right?
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People can stay in their boxes if they want. They can refuse
to believe me, and they can keep on believing they can be
double-minded, mixing a little evil with good and have
everything turn out okay. But I am saying we should learn to
discipline our minds even if we don't want to send things out
into the world.
In fact, people sending thoughts out into the world weakens
them. There are some people with little bits of their mind
scattered all over the place. There's often some truth to
figures of speech -- and scatterbrained is almost the truth but
it's their minds being scattered not their brains.
Oh my, I knew a man who was depressed so bad he started
projecting thought into matter. He ruined the electric stove.
All four elements went kaput. When I walked into his house, I
could feel the negativity oozing from the walls. He wasn't
stupid. In fact, he came from a good family, had a good
education and a very good job; but stress got to him, he got on
pills -- and went scatterbrained.
At Scientology, they have a routine that teaches people how to
project ideas into other people's minds. Now I didn't know
that when I went down to talk to someone; but I could tell the
idea "I want to take this Scientology class" was in my mind but
I also knew I hadn't created that thought. I could tell he
was. That had never happened to me before; and I hadn't even
heard of it before; but I went home and told my friend I wasn't
going to take the class because I felt as if the guy had put the
thought into my mind and I didn't like it since it didn't seem
honest. My friend admitted they knew how to do it and the guy
shouldn't have done it. (That guy later got into trouble, by
the way. I think perhaps my friend reported him.) Then I
went to another location.
The exercise is simple. Get an ashtray and put a thought in
it.
I can't stand to wear gold by the way. It has always made me
uncomfortable. I finally figured out why. I can't stand all
the "thoughts" and "emotions" in it. Over the centuries, too
much negativity has been directed at gold and the gold absorbed
it.
Gold should be clear! Spiritual gold is. Physical gold would
be too if there wasn't so much "sinful" energy tied up in it.
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Kerry
Date: June 4, 2015, 3:41 pm
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At some point, perhaps we should discuss "shadows" in the Bible
and the concept of "overshadowing."
In the "image of God" is an interesting phrase since "image" is
"tselem" coming from the word "to shade" or cast a shadow. An
outline.
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Re: Ideas
DIR By: Piper
Date: June 4, 2015, 3:54 pm
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I don't have an ash tray.
And how would I "put a thought" in it? And why?
Who's waffling?
(This seems a strange conversation.)
My cats are projecting images of empty food bowls.
Thunder, rain, and more thunder and rain. Perfect. Sets the
mood.
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