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The Reapers
By: Colin Feener Date: May 18, 2015, 8:20 pm
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This one is the odd one. When you read it, the last part of
chapter 14 it tells u about the Angels that put the sickle into
the earth to reap the harvest. Scary it may sound but it is all
the good for us and the people that have become as sons of God
or as the g r a p e s from the vine. So the sickle is there to
through us off because the reaping is the cluster of g r a p e s
and The Israelites were as a cluster of g r a p e s to the Lord.
Jesus is the vine and his disciples were the branches, in this
case the same but Christ is the vine and the churches are the
branches and the g r a p e s that are harvested are the people
that have come to the Lord threw the vineyard as the new
children of God the father. The vine press is then the new
testament and the blood up to the shoulder of a horse is the
horse as before but now with no head because Christ is the head
of this people.The river of blood is like the Jordan where
people are baptized, but in the Holy Spirit. The river of blood
is two hundred miles long . I am not sure of the meaning of that
distance, the Lord has not shown me that just yet. This is
leading up to the bowls which are the wrath of God sent out to
the left people but it shows the victory of us believers and for
us it is all great.
#Post#: 1942--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Reapers
By: Kerry Date: May 18, 2015, 8:47 pm
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Yes, I think so too. The wheat and grapes are being harvested
to become Bread and Wine of the Body of Christ.
The harvest of wheat is interesting since we could say the wheat
is beheaded. . . as in the saints losing their heads. The
heads are cut off and carried into the barn but the chaff is not
since it's not worth saving. The husks are the carnal nature,
just as the "skins" of the grapes are carnal -- and discarded
after being separated by the winepress.
Jesus doesn't talk about the grapes being harvested but did talk
about the harvesting of the "wheat."
Matthew 13: 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the
children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the
wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the
end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire;
so shall it be in the end of this world.
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Re: The Reapers
By: Colin Feener Date: May 18, 2015, 9:21 pm
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Right on Kerry, You know I never ever noticed the harvest of
the earth but you are right . I mostly did it from memory and
just read it threw. I love this book. I can see almost
everything in it now, you too Kerry?. I really love it. There
is so much great stuff for us there too but it don't look that
way till you understand it. Even the wrath is not for the
overcomers and we stay above the sea of iniquity as a sea of
glass for us who overcome this world.
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Re: The Reapers
By: Kerry Date: May 18, 2015, 9:40 pm
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I was so pleased you didn't give that passage a depressing
interpretation. I think it's one of the happiest passages in
the Bible.
When the Bible says "wrath," I'm not sure it means "wrath" in
human terms. I don't think God's "wrath" is like man's
"wrath." I think God's "wrath" is good for people although
they may feel it isn't if they resist God. When the Bible
uses the word "wrath," I think it may be using a human word for
something we have no real word for.
Believers have nothing to fear at all, and all sinners need to
fear is losing the human imperfections and sins they are still
clinging to. Yes, sinners may experience that loss and feel
God is "angry" with them, but is that really the way it is? Or
does God want a "new earth" that is better than what we have
now and is cleansing it of its vileness?
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Re: The Reapers
By: Colin Feener Date: May 18, 2015, 9:41 pm
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Kerry, that is one of the best replies even given on my
treads, And from you. I liked it and even the body of Christ
thing was great. Never even noticed it so thank you too for that
and Ive reread the whole chapyter several times now and love it
even more and got a lot more out of it.
#Post#: 1948--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Reapers
By: Colin Feener Date: May 18, 2015, 9:47 pm
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God's wrath is just the word in its literal understanding
and it puts people in bondage to the sin until they overcome it
and as it is called wrath, it makes people think of the wrath of
men but you are right about it. People even love it as it is the
sinful nature they themselves love, that lust of this world.
Their own greed and glory.
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Re: The Reapers
By: Kerry Date: May 18, 2015, 11:47 pm
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[quote author=Colin Feener link=topic=223.msg1948#msg1948
date=1432003668]
God's wrath is just the word in its literal understanding
and it puts people in bondage to the sin until they overcome it
and as it is called wrath, it makes people think of the wrath of
men but you are right about it. People even love it as it is the
sinful nature they themselves love, that lust of this world.
Their own greed and glory.
[/quote]Amen to "their own greed and glory"; and we can't
serve both God and mammon. We can't serve the letter of the law
in its literal meaning and also serve the Spirit of the Law. So
much religion seems a way of dodging the Spirit by juggling the
literal words of the Bible (and other holy books) around. This
is all a waste of time. False religion, serving mammon.
Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the
wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have
committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth
are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of
her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that
ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered
her iniquities.
The question people could ask when reading that passage is if
they can hear that voice telling them that -- as they're
reading it. Is it just literal words on the page they are
reading, or can they hear the heavenly voice? Here and now.
Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear
the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are
written therein: for the time is at hand.
#Post#: 1957--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Reapers
By: Colin Feener Date: May 19, 2015, 10:17 pm
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Well Kerry I think it is just me and you but thats ok by me.
I wanted to tell you something. About the harvest of wheat. The
wheat is used for making the bread of life. Bread we eat when we
hunger for understanding of the spirit. The bread of
understanding and the Spirit is the new life so the bread of
life and Jesus is him, the bread of life and God is father to
the living. Tares for the fire and husks for the beast but wheat
is for bread and bread is the staff we hold in our hands, the
staff of life. Like it?
#Post#: 1958--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Reapers
By: Kerry Date: May 19, 2015, 11:02 pm
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People could be busy or tied up. Maybe they'll pop up later.
Yes, I think you're right, Colin. While it's right to say
Jesus, the Bridegroom, is the Bread of Life, we can see too that
the Bride must also become bread.
What does the threshingfloor mean in 2 Chronicles 3:1?
Literally, not too much, I guess. But spiritually it shows
something. God demands we separate the spiritual wheat from
the carnal chaff so we can make bread. Odd then that Solomon
built the Temple where a threshingfloor had been.
I also love the idea of now millstones are used for grinding the
wheat. There are two stones, of course. The one below on the
earth doesn't move; but the one above moves and grinds the wheat
and makes it into fine flour. The saint is between Heaven and
the earth -- and what happens on the earth becomes unimportant
as the Heavenly millstone does its work.
As you know, the millstone can be used to crash into things too
as it is in in Revelation 18:21.
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Re: The Reapers
By: Piper Date: May 20, 2015, 1:19 pm
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[font=trebuchet ms]I just made a post, hit 'post' and it
disappeared. So much for that attempt. The irony is, I was
writing about the inadequacy of words, and how trust and
faithfulness are higher. How faithfulness separates the wheat
from the chaff. But all my words disappeared, haha.
Headache. Aspirin badly needed. Wanted to say hello, I'm still
here, just in a contemplative mode of late. Quiet. But . . .
hi.[/font]
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