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Re: Theology for Beginners
DIR By: Twinc
Date: May 4, 2015, 7:57 am
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[quote author=Piper link=topic=145.msg1339#msg1339
date=1429718801]
Ideas are the "offspring" of spirit. They are similar in that
neither ideas nor spirit have shape, size, color, weight, nor do
they take up space.
So . . . While they are very "real", they are not matter.
[/quote
you nearly had the answer but you let it slip through your
fingers so to speak viz ideas and thoughts and mind are not
matter or material - nothing can exist without a mind knowing of
its existence for could there just be a flower somewhere,
somehow that blooms unseen and wastes its sweetness on the
desert air - twinc
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Re: Theology for Beginners
DIR By: Piper
Date: May 4, 2015, 1:09 pm
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Thanks, twinc. Will look up the other books, in time.
Good point,above. :)
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Re: Theology for Beginners
DIR By: Kerry
Date: May 4, 2015, 8:38 pm
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--- Quote from: Piper link ---
>
> Ideas are the "offspring" of spirit. They are similar in that
neither ideas nor spirit have shape, size, color, weight, nor do
they take up space.
>
> So . . . While they are very "real", they are not matter.
>
--- End Quote ---
Let me start a thread about this in my group since I don't want
to derail this thread.
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Re: Theology for Beginners
DIR By: Piper
Date: May 5, 2015, 1:14 pm
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> A part is any element in a being which is not the whole of it,
as my chest is a part of my body, or an electron a part of an
atom. A spirit has no parts. There is no element in it which is
not the whole of it. There is no division of parts as there is
in matter.
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> Our soul has no parts, for it is a spirit. There is no element
in our soul which is not the whole soul. It does a remarkable
variety of things— knowing, loving, animating a body— but each
one of them is done by the whole soul; it has no parts among
which to divide them up.
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> . . . a being which has no parts does not occupy space.
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> Space is simply what matter spreads its parts in. But a being
with no parts at all has no spread; space and it have nothing
whatever in common; it is spaceless; it is superior to the need
for space.
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> The trouble is that we find it hard to think of a thing
existing if it is not in space, and we find it very hard to
think of a thing acting if it has no parts. As against the first
difficulty we must remind ourselves that space is merely
emptiness, and emptiness can hardly be essential to existence.
As against the second we must remind ourselves that parts are
only divisions, and dividedness can hardly be an indispensable
aid to action.
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Re: Theology for Beginners
DIR By: Twinc
Date: May 16, 2015, 4:05 pm
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Thoughts /Ideas occupy no space and have no parts but Thoughts
are things - a thing or anything must first be thought - more
later or on demand if interested - twinc
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Re: Theology for Beginners
DIR By: CatholicCrusader
Date: July 17, 2015, 5:45 am
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> I'm reading a Kindle book called Theology for Beginners, by
F.J. Sheed, and I've found I can copy and paste my highlighting
to the forum, so thought I would. The author gives us things of
depth to think about, and I love having things to consider while
I go about daily tasks.
>
> Mr. Sheed is a Catholic author, so some mention of Catholicism
will occur, but not an overwhelming amount. Much of the text is
good for all interested in theology. I really enjoy his writing
style.
>
> I'll copy a bit at a time.
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That is an awesome book by a great author. I have a copy
myself. Everyone should read it, Catholic or not. If I remember
correctly, the Forward in new prints of the book is by Karl
Keating, President of Catholic Answers
HTML http://www.catholic.com
.
About the author:
HTML http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/authors/franksheed.asp
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Re: Theology for Beginners
DIR By: Piper
Date: July 17, 2015, 11:14 am
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^ Yes, good you bumped the thread. I need to get back to that
book, but will probably finish The Lamb's Supper, first, to help
me understand Mass more clearly.
So many great books, so little time. :) But I love that all my
books easily come with me on my Kindle; I read at every spare
moment.
edit: Yes! Including the Bible. ;)
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