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       Re: Theology for Beginners
       By: Twinc Date: May 4, 2015, 7:57 am
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       [quote author=Piper link=topic=145.msg1339#msg1339
       date=1429718801]
       [font=trebuchet ms]Ideas are the "offspring" of spirit.  They
       are similar in that neither ideas nor spirit have shape, size,
       color, weight, nor do they take up space.
       So . . . While they are very "real", they are not matter.[/font]
       [/quote
       you nearly had the answer but you let it slip through your
       fingers so to speak viz ideas and thoughts and mind are not
       matter or material - nothing can exist without a mind knowing of
       its existence for could there just be a flower somewhere,
       somehow that blooms unseen and wastes its sweetness on the
       desert air - twinc
       #Post#: 1718--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Theology for Beginners
       By: Piper Date: May 4, 2015, 1:09 pm
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       [font=trebuchet ms]Thanks, twinc.  Will look up the other books,
       in time.
       Good point,above.  :)[/font]
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       Re: Theology for Beginners
       By: Kerry Date: May 4, 2015, 8:38 pm
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       [quote author=Piper link=topic=145.msg1339#msg1339
       date=1429718801]
       [font=trebuchet ms]Ideas are the "offspring" of spirit.  They
       are similar in that neither ideas nor spirit have shape, size,
       color, weight, nor do they take up space.
       So . . . While they are very "real", they are not matter.[/font]
       [/quote]Let me start a thread about this in my group since I
       don't want to derail this thread.
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       Re: Theology for Beginners
       By: Piper Date: May 5, 2015, 1:14 pm
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       [quote][font=times new roman]A part is any element in a being
       which is not the whole of it, as my chest is a part of my body,
       or an electron a part of an atom. A spirit has no parts. There
       is no element in it which is not the whole of it. There is no
       division of parts as there is in matter.[/font][/quote]
       [quote][font=times new roman]Our soul has no parts, for it is a
       spirit. There is no element in our soul which is not the whole
       soul. It does a remarkable variety of things— knowing, loving,
       animating a body— but each one of them is done by the whole
       soul; it has no parts among which to divide them
       up.[/font][/quote]
       [quote][font=times new roman] . . . a being which has no parts
       does not occupy space.[/font][/quote]
       [quote][font=times new roman]Space is simply what matter spreads
       its parts in. But a being with no parts at all has no spread;
       space and it have nothing whatever in common; it is spaceless;
       it is superior to the need for space.[/font][/quote]
       [quote][font=times new roman]The trouble is that we find it hard
       to think of a thing existing if it is not in space, and we find
       it very hard to think of a thing acting if it has no parts. As
       against the first difficulty we must remind ourselves that space
       is merely emptiness, and emptiness can hardly be essential to
       existence. As against the second we must remind ourselves that
       parts are only divisions, and dividedness can hardly be an
       indispensable aid to action.[/font][/quote]
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       Re: Theology for Beginners
       By: Twinc Date: May 16, 2015, 4:05 pm
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       Thoughts /Ideas occupy no space and have no parts but Thoughts
       are things - a thing or anything must first be thought - more
       later or on demand if interested - twinc
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       Re: Theology for Beginners
       By: CatholicCrusader Date: July 17, 2015, 5:45 am
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       [quote author=Piper link=topic=145.msg1270#msg1270
       date=1429556536][font=trebuchet ms]I'm reading a Kindle book
       called Theology for Beginners, by F.J. Sheed, and I've found I
       can copy and paste my highlighting to the forum, so thought I
       would.  The author gives us things of depth to think about, and
       I love having things to consider while I go about daily tasks.
       Mr. Sheed is a Catholic author, so some mention of Catholicism
       will occur, but not an overwhelming amount.  Much of the text is
       good for all interested in theology. I really enjoy his writing
       style.
       I'll copy a bit at a time.  [/font][/quote]
       That is an awesome book by a great author.  I have a copy
       myself. Everyone should read it, Catholic or not. If I remember
       correctly, the Forward in new prints of the book is by Karl
       Keating, President of Catholic Answers
  HTML http://www.catholic.com
       .
       About the author:
  HTML http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/authors/franksheed.asp
       #Post#: 2556--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Theology for Beginners
       By: Piper Date: July 17, 2015, 11:14 am
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       [font=trebuchet ms]^  Yes, good you bumped the thread.  I need
       to get back to that book, but will probably finish The Lamb's
       Supper, first, to help me understand Mass more clearly.
       So many great books, so little time. :)  But I love that all my
       books easily come with me on my Kindle; I read at every spare
       moment.
       edit:  Yes!  Including the Bible. ;)[/font]
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