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Re: Paradise
DIR By: Poppy
Date: April 13, 2015, 2:51 pm
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[quote=Poppy]I once had a God dream in which a voice kept
telling me. "Go back to the garden."[/quote]
[quote=Kerry]This is interesting since it seems to mean you
came from it. [/quote]
When I prayed about it Kerry, I believe God was telling me to
have that 'Eden' intimacy with him and just I am free of sin I
can also be free of sickness for there was no sickness in the
'Garden'. It has given me something to have faith in for faith
came by hearing God speak to me in a dream.
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Re: Paradise
DIR By: Piper
Date: April 13, 2015, 4:53 pm
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Poppy,
Do you mean that if we are sick (in this world), it is because
we don't have close enough intimacy with God?
Or do you mean that in Paradise, because of close intimacy with
God, there is no sin or sickness?
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Re: Paradise
DIR By: Poppy
Date: April 13, 2015, 5:13 pm
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I mean - or I think I mean - that it ought to be possible for
Christians to live without sickness. I think people like Smith
Wigglesworth believed that too. He was such a man of faith and
use to say, "Only believe". I haven't got to that point myself
and have been surrounded by Christians who accept sickness
because we live in the World and it is god's will for us. I
don't accept that. If I am sick I go to God first and don't
accept that God has made me sick. I just believe that it can be
possible to live without sickness but what we need to do to get
to that place I do not know.
#Post#: 1099--------------------------------------------------
Re: Paradise
DIR By: bradley
Date: April 13, 2015, 5:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Poppy link ---
>
> When I prayed about it Kerry, I believe God was telling me to
have that 'Eden' intimacy with him and just I am free of sin I
can also be free of sickness for there was no sickness in the
'Garden'. It has given me something to have faith in for faith
came by hearing God speak to me in a dream.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think the main reason that their was no sickness then, is that
the earth was not cursed to man, and everything that we
breathed, ate, and drank was truly good for us. Now, even
after being saved, we often breathe, drink, and eat things that
are bad for us, not to mention 7 generations past of our
precursors bad ingesting coming through in our genes.
#Post#: 1100--------------------------------------------------
Re: Paradise
DIR By: Piper
Date: April 13, 2015, 5:50 pm
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I would like to believe Christians might live without sickness,
as well, but that certainly has not been my experience. Nor the
experience of many Christians. We must never "blame" God for
our sickness, but there is simply no denying He allows it. This
is where I have come to believe suffering serves divine purpose.
Certainly the suffering of our Lord had purpose. There is
simply no other explanation why God's children often are
stricken and suffer tremendously. It's a very difficult topic,
especially for those Christians suffering chronic illness. We
must be careful to never make them believe their sickness is
somehow their own "fault" because of something they lack
spiritually, thereby burdening them with unwarranted guilt as
well as ill-health. I have seen MS forums warn their members to
avoid Christians for this very reason. It is very sad.
I have "been to God" ten thousand times.
Seeing Kevin sick for so long has forced me to face many harsh
realities that people would rather avoid. I've had no choice.
Reality is in my face every day. It is disturbing, but I must
make my peace with a god who allows tremendous suffering, beyond
anything even we have experienced.
This is another topic, of course, and a new thread should be
started if others wish to continue with it.
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Re: Paradise
DIR By: A nonny mouse
Date: April 14, 2015, 3:21 am
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--- Quote from: Poppy link ---
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> I mean - or I think I mean - that it ought to be possible for
Christians to live without sickness. I think people like Smith
Wigglesworth believed that too.
>
--- End Quote ---
Smith Wigglesworth is not alone in underpinning an assumed
authority to teach and to lead on the basis of illiteracy.
Many follow that pathway, and many more fall in step on the
understanding that literacy is 'the wisdom of this world' that
is to be avoided.
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Re: Paradise
DIR By: Heartsong
Date: April 14, 2015, 3:47 am
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I have what seems like a memory that may be paradise. I've
shared this before. I was above this huge beautiful waterfall,
looking down, and I saw trees, plants, flowers, of the most
amazing colors, birds and animals too. It was breathtaking. The
most beautiful place I've ever seen. I didn't see people there.
I was aware of the life in everything from the droplets of water
in the waterfall down to the smallest blade of grass and all
this life had the same awareness of all the life around it.
There was more than life though. There was also a consciousness
in everything. My attention was drawn to this little cricket far
below in the grass and suddenly I was there where the cricket
was and I was amazed how the cricket and I were able to
communicate with each other. ....I think the main thing was that
all this beauty, life, consciousness was a symphony of praise
and glory to the Creator, our Father in heaven.
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Re: Paradise
DIR By: Piper
Date: April 14, 2015, 4:01 am
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^ Sounds wonderful!
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Re: Paradise
DIR By: Heartsong
Date: April 14, 2015, 4:10 am
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--- Quote from: Piper link ---
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> ^ Sounds wonderful!
>
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Hey Nancy. It was wonderful. :) And way beyond anything I could
have imagined or even fully explain.
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Re: Paradise
DIR By: HappyHeretic
Date: April 21, 2015, 8:28 am
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This is the first time I've heard of people having dreams of
being in Eden.
It kind of reminded me of the first few verses of Psalm 23:
The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.
He makes me lie down in green pastures,
he leads me beside quiet waters,
he refreshes my soul.
Does that describe Eden? I wonder if David had a similar dream
experience.
Mike HM
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