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How much do we need to live?
By: Colin Feener Date: April 8, 2015, 7:53 am
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To the church of Sardis Jesus said I know thy works and you
have a name that you are alive but you are dead. Be watchful and
strengthen the things which remain and are about to die. Jesus
is talking about the Holy Spirit. That the things that they have
are their teachings and the works of them are not found perfect
before God. The Holy Spirit is given to each of us and some have
a lot and some little but that Spirit is given as living
teachings from the understanding from above. If you have a lot
of the Holy Spirit , that is a gift from God and that is the
life of the word. So you all have some and if you do not hold on
to that Jesus will come upon you as a thief. That means he will
come upon you as the antichrist. He is not the antichrist but
the word without Spiritual understanding is without the Spirit.
No Spirit , No life. I do not know how people feel about that
but it scares me to think when you have no understanding from
above you have not got the Holy Spirit. Then it is this world
you belong to and the prince of this world is the prince of
darkness. That means this world . Darkness means no
understanding from God. Disciples of John the baptist even have
some Spirit but darkness means none. You do not know what hour
means you do not even know it happened.
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Re: How much do we need to live?
By: Piper Date: April 8, 2015, 1:31 pm
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[font=trebuchet ms]Jesus is not the antichrist, but the "Word"
without spiritual understanding (the dead letter) IS?
Let me see if I understand you, Colin: God gives to us the Holy
Spirit (you refer specifically to the spiritual understanding of
Scripture), but He can also take it away. If we are lukewarm,
if we grow lax in our faith, Jesus "spits" us out, and may come
as "a thief in the night" to take away what little understanding
we had? Without spiritual understanding, we are basically dead.
Also, once we have "tasted the gift", if we turn our back, it
is worse than if we had never tasted at all.[/font]
[quote][center][font=andale mono]Hebrews 6:4-6 (KJV)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and
have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the
Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the
world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;
seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put
him to an open shame.
[/font][/center][/quote]
[font=trebuchet ms]If we receive so great a gift, to fall away
and turn our back is "to crucify the Son of God afresh." What a
horrible thing that would be! By turning away, we nail Jesus to
the cross like a common liar or thief, His blood pours out, he
breathes His last, and dies. God takes Him from us, and we die,
too. We can not be "renewed again unto repentance" because
Jesus died once for all. That one death brought us life, but to
turn away is to put Him to shame, to put him there again. The
gift, the blessing is given and we must treat it as a great and
valuable gem. [/font]
[font=trebuchet ms]Look at the next verses in Hebrew 6:
[/font]
[quote][center][font=andale mono]Hebrews 6:7-8 (KJV)
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon
it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is
dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is
nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be
burned.[/font][/center][/quote]
[font=trebuchet ms]We are the earth. If we drink in the "rain"
from heaven, and it produces in us what is useful to God, we
will receive "blessing."
If, though, we bear "thorns and thistles" we become worthless,
and we are in danger of being cursed and rejected. In the end,
such is burned.
This is, indeed, a warning that is to be heeded. It is like the
Parable of the Sower, in Matthew 13. I'm not sure we
understand in precisely the same way, but, yes, the Lord gives
and the Lord takes away. The rain from heaven is meant to
produce many things in us, Colin, and I don't think it is
limited only to Scriptural understanding, although that is a big
part of it. I think our "works" must go beyond simply
understanding; we must ACT on what we understand and live what
we have learned, which embodies BEING Jesus to the world, to the
people around us. Teaching is one way to be Jesus, yes, but
love demands so many things. Love demands we give everything.
It's a very high calling, and it brings to my mind that we are
to "work out our salvation with fear and trembling."
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Re: How much do we need to live?
By: Colin Feener Date: April 8, 2015, 4:43 pm
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How can I thank God enough for inspiring you to be with me.
That was exactly what I needed. The Lord himself has given me
what I have and for me to find scripture to back it up is so
difficult.You do it so well. Thank you so much and lets do it. I
hope others join us but I am happy with you and thank God for
you. I never studied Paul and his writings. They back up what I
say too but having you with me is also a great blessing from
God.
You do understand what it is the Lord has taught me and that
is that every time the Lord gives us a revelation of
understanding of the Spirit, it is him giving us the gift of the
Holy Spirit and that lets us partake in the scriptures from God
in the heavenly way. Not as those in this world do have. Not in
that fleshy sinful nature but in the divine nature of God and
his Son, our one and only Lord for ever. Love you Sister.
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Re: How much do we need to live?
By: Piper Date: April 9, 2015, 11:17 am
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[font=trebuchet ms]I will always count you a brother, and love
you, as well, Colin.[/font]
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Re: How much do we need to live?
By: Amadeus Date: April 17, 2015, 12:22 pm
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[quote author=Colin Feener link=topic=106.msg971#msg971
date=1428497634] The Holy Spirit is given to each of us and some
have a lot and some little but that Spirit is given as living
teachings from the understanding from above. If you have a lot
of the Holy Spirit , that is a gift from God and that is the
life of the word. So you all have some and if you do not hold on
to that Jesus will come upon you as a thief. That means he will
come upon you as the antichrist. He is not the antichrist but
the word without Spiritual understanding is without the Spirit.
No Spirit , No life. I do not know how people feel about that
but it scares me to think when you have no understanding from
above you have not got the Holy Spirit.
[/quote]
[font=courier]Yes, no Spirit equals no Life as God sees and
understands Life. Jesus said that he is that Life. Without Jesus
we surely are dead. Many people who call themselves believers
miss much and have no Life because they do not understand what
Life really is and do not pursue it. They presume too much on
this natural planet earth and have no real vision of "good"
things:
"Where there is no vision, the people perish" Prov 29:18
Then again some believers (no doubt too many) have a very poor
vision that is not improving:
"For now we see through a glass, darkly..." I Cor 13:12[/font]
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Re: How much do we need to live?
By: Colin Feener Date: April 17, 2015, 9:41 pm
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John, I am happy to see you are with us and we agree on these
things now. I also learned to humble myself more and as you say,
give God the glory. Well, I try more now. Love you brother.
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