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       #Post#: 11334--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bury expelled from the EFL
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: September 27, 2019, 9:26 am
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       --- Quote from: doowe link ---
       >
       > Without making any judgement on the Bury situation. It is a
       fact that The Football League have a long history of illogical
       decision making, depending on the status of a particular club.
       One of the prime examples was the circumstances of Arsenal’s
       promotion to the First Division a century ago
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You won't let it go will you? [emoji2]
       #Post#: 11335--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bury expelled from the EFL
   DIR By: guest18
       Date: September 27, 2019, 11:08 am
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       --- Quote from: QuoCob link ---
       >
       > [quote author=doowe link=topic=982.msg11328#msg11328
       date=1569568132]
       > Without making any judgement on the Bury situation. It is a
       fact that The Football League have a long history of illogical
       decision making, depending on the status of a particular club.
       One of the prime examples was the circumstances of Arsenal’s
       promotion to the First Division a century ago
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You won't let it go will you? [emoji2]
       [/quote]
       The first time I have ever mentioned it
       #Post#: 11338--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bury expelled from the EFL
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: September 27, 2019, 2:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: doowe link ---
       >
       > Without making any judgement on the Bury situation. It is a
       fact that The Football League have a long history of illogical
       decision making, depending on the status of a particular club.
       One of the prime examples was the circumstances of Arsenal’s
       promotion to the First Division a century ago
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       By all means 'disagree' with my post, but without explaining
       why, it's a bit of a cop out.
       Don't be fooled by the sob stories the mainstream media have
       been fed here. This has been going on at that club for over 20
       years and their fans have been warned time and time again.
       #Post#: 11339--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bury expelled from the EFL
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: September 27, 2019, 2:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bakis link ---
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       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=982.msg11323#msg11323
       date=1569523440]
       > [quote author=QuoCob link=topic=982.msg11320#msg11320
       date=1569514756]
       > Their bid to be placed in League Two has been kiboshed now:
       >
  HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7508231/Bury-bid-lifeline-rejected-EFL-clubs-turn-rescue-plan.html
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As it should have been.
       Only vanity made them think otherwise, unlike the likes of
       Darlington, Stockport, Aldershot, Newport, Maidstone, etc...
       [/quote]
       Agree entirely with the sentiment, but surely Stockport were
       relegated in the usual fashion (albeit after financial troubles)
       so shouldn't be on the unfortunately lengthy list of examples?
       [/quote]
       Yes, fair point, although in a parallel with Bury, they built a
       squad they couldn't afford in winning promotion from League Two
       in 2008. It caught up with them eventually.
       #Post#: 11340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bury expelled from the EFL
   DIR By: guest18
       Date: September 27, 2019, 2:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: TVOS link ---
       >
       > [quote author=doowe link=topic=982.msg11328#msg11328
       date=1569568132]
       > Without making any judgement on the Bury situation. It is a
       fact that The Football League have a long history of illogical
       decision making, depending on the status of a particular club.
       One of the prime examples was the circumstances of Arsenal’s
       promotion to the First Division a century ago
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       By all means 'disagree' with my post, but without explaining
       why, it's a bit of a cop out.
       Don't be fooled by the sob stories the mainstream media have
       been fed here. This has been going on at that club for over 20
       years and their fans have been warned time and time again.
       [/quote]
       No cop out at all! You made a statement, “Only vanity made them
       think otherwise”. This was presented as fact when in reality I
       suspect it is opinion, which cannot be supported by evidence. It
       would be interesting to know who are those you describe as them
       I also have no doubt if Rochdale, or any other Football League
       club, found themselves in a similar position to Bury, their
       supporters, officials and anyone else connected with the club or
       town would do everything they could think of to try and overturn
       the decision.
       #Post#: 11343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bury expelled from the EFL
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: September 27, 2019, 6:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: doowe link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TVOS link=topic=982.msg11338#msg11338
       date=1569611776]
       > [quote author=doowe link=topic=982.msg11328#msg11328
       date=1569568132]
       > Without making any judgement on the Bury situation. It is a
       fact that The Football League have a long history of illogical
       decision making, depending on the status of a particular club.
       One of the prime examples was the circumstances of Arsenal’s
       promotion to the First Division a century ago
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       By all means 'disagree' with my post, but without explaining
       why, it's a bit of a cop out.
       Don't be fooled by the sob stories the mainstream media have
       been fed here. This has been going on at that club for over 20
       years and their fans have been warned time and time again.
       [/quote]
       No cop out at all! You made a statement, “Only vanity made them
       think otherwise”. This was presented as fact when in reality I
       suspect it is opinion, which cannot be supported by evidence. It
       would be interesting to know who are those you describe as them
       I also have no doubt if Rochdale, or any other Football League
       club, found themselves in a similar position to Bury, their
       supporters, officials and anyone else connected with the club or
       town would do everything they could think of to try and overturn
       the decision.
       [/quote]
       I’m talking about things that happened before this week and
       before this season.
       Like I said, that club has spent beyond its means for years.
       They have previously been in administration. A large proportion
       of their fans have lauded it on forums of other clubs (not just
       my own) about how they were “bathing in gold”, “enjoying the
       ride” and “wow, wow, wowing” their way to promotion, while at
       the same time failing to pay hundreds of businesses for their
       services and other clubs for ticket sales.
       That is fact, as per the documentation freely available online
       and in various media.
       ‘Them’ are those fans who think their club had some form of
       right or entitlement to League 2 football next season alongside
       clubs who continue to cut their cloth accordingly even though it
       brings them limited or no success.
       Yes, I’m sure there are some humble and embarrassed bury fans
       out there, but as said, most of them were happy to go along with
       it all until recently, while at the same time choosing to shout
       down any dissenting voices from their Gigg Lane colleagues.
       It’s a situation they might have avoided if they had just
       listened.
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