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       #Post#: 10517--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: August 28, 2019, 7:41 am
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       --- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
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       > [quote author=MichaelRef link=topic=979.msg10461#msg10461
       date=1566919040]
       > Surprised Josh Smith gets a 2nd game, after his struggles at
       Home Park but I wish him the best of luck.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You expected him to be fired after one game?
       [/quote]
       We have him next Tuesday in the Checka/Leasing.com for our
       'massive' local derby against Peterboro'
       #Post#: 10526--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: August 28, 2019, 9:51 am
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       So Neil Hair & Co have a free Saturday with the demise of Bury
       FC. Latest news suggests that Bolton's game at Gills will be
       going ahead, but I cannot help thinking that if the present
       situation continues, teams who are playing Bolton in the near
       future will be looking forward to boosting their goal
       difference, which can't be good for the game.
       #Post#: 10528--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: August 28, 2019, 10:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > So Neil Hair & Co have a free Saturday with the demise of Bury
       FC. Latest news suggests that Bolton's game at Gills will be
       going ahead, but I cannot help thinking that if the present
       situation continues, teams who are playing Bolton in the near
       future will be looking forward to boosting their goal
       difference, which can't be good for the game.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If (and I sincerely hope this doesn't happen) Bolton are kicked
       out like Bury, am I correct in stating that all the points and
       goal difference figures for the teams who've played Bolton are
       wiped off the tables?
       #Post#: 10533--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: August 28, 2019, 10:42 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=979.msg10526#msg10526
       date=1567003872]
       > So Neil Hair & Co have a free Saturday with the demise of Bury
       FC. Latest news suggests that Bolton's game at Gills will be
       going ahead, but I cannot help thinking that if the present
       situation continues, teams who are playing Bolton in the near
       future will be looking forward to boosting their goal
       difference, which can't be good for the game.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If (and I sincerely hope this doesn't happen) Bolton are kicked
       out like Bury, am I correct in stating that all the points and
       goal difference figures for the teams who've played Bolton are
       wiped off the tables?
       [/quote]
       Yes and just 2 relegation spots to avoid.
       #Post#: 10534--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: August 28, 2019, 10:45 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=979.msg10526#msg10526
       date=1567003872]
       > So Neil Hair & Co have a free Saturday with the demise of Bury
       FC. Latest news suggests that Bolton's game at Gills will be
       going ahead, but I cannot help thinking that if the present
       situation continues, teams who are playing Bolton in the near
       future will be looking forward to boosting their goal
       difference, which can't be good for the game.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If (and I sincerely hope this doesn't happen) Bolton are kicked
       out like Bury, am I correct in stating that all the points and
       goal difference figures for the teams who've played Bolton are
       wiped off the tables?
       [/quote]
       I assume that it will be similar for when Aldershot went the
       same way during a season, their results were 'expunged' from the
       record.
       #Post#: 10559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: Welshexref
       Date: August 29, 2019, 4:35 am
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       So if you make a mess of your driving test first time round you
       shouldn't be allowed a second chance?
       Thankfully Bolton seemed to have been saved from the same fate
       as Bury but why does there have to be one less relegation spot
       and not one extra promotion down the line? Why reward failure
       rather than success. And if that seems to contradict my
       statement above teams have 46 chances to get things right rather
       than the one Mr Smith has had.
       #Post#: 10564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: August 29, 2019, 10:08 am
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       --- Quote from: Welshexref link ---
       >
       > So if you make a mess of your driving test first time round
       you shouldn't be allowed a second chance?
       >
       > Thankfully Bolton seemed to have been saved from the same fate
       as Bury but why does there have to be one less relegation spot
       and not one extra promotion down the line? Why reward failure
       rather than success. And if that seems to contradict my
       statement above teams have 46 chances to get things right rather
       than the one Mr Smith has had.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Poor analogy.  His driving test was his promotion - he's now on
       the road driving.
       If a new driver has a crash or offends against motoring law, he
       might be off the road for some while.
       He probably wasn't as bad as suggested. My only beef with him
       over recent years was his calling off a perfectly playable pitch
       at Concord (perhaps he liked Canvey so much he wanted to return)
       and then refereeing Dartford to a conclusion in an absolute
       quagmire a few weeks later.
       #Post#: 10565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: comeonyouwhites
       Date: August 29, 2019, 10:44 am
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       Bury didn’t play any games, so no one as gained any points
       #Post#: 10566--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: August 29, 2019, 10:55 am
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       --- Quote from: comeonyouwhites link ---
       >
       > Bury didn’t play any games, so no one 'as gained any points
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       An indisputably correct statement - but some context might help
       whatever point you're making.
       #Post#: 10568--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 31st AUG 2019
   DIR By: MichaelRef
       Date: August 29, 2019, 11:16 am
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       --- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
       >
       > [quote author=MichaelRef link=topic=979.msg10461#msg10461
       date=1566919040]
       > Surprised Josh Smith gets a 2nd game, after his struggles at
       Home Park but I wish him the best of luck.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You expected him to be fired after one game?
       [/quote]
       No I was not but.. It is far from uncommon for a referee to
       recieve a 4o appointment or a weekend off following a poor
       performance. I must emphasise how much he struggled, to the
       point plenty around me feeling sorry because he was so out of
       his depth. As I said, I wish him the best of luck and I hope he
       proves it was very much a case of first match nerves.
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