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Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: bmb
Date: August 20, 2019, 9:50 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> [quote author=bmb link=topic=954.msg10074#msg10074
date=1566148430]
> [quote author=greeny link=topic=954.msg10059#msg10059
date=1566140737]
> It's confirmed - Oli Langford will be taking charge of the
game. I thought referees stayed in a hotel prior to a match and
made their way to the stadium as a team, but clearly this is not
the case.
>
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They only stay overnight at a hotel when the game is a certain
distance away. Michael Oliver for example would stay at a hotel
(well his in laws in his case but you get the point...) when
appointed to Bournemouth/Southampton/Portsmouth as it is over
the required distance. Andre Marriner though would travel from
the midlands to those 3 on the day of the match as it is below
the required distance. They meet at a local hotel prior to the
game, the time seems to vary from anything between 9am & 12pm
for a 3pm kick off - I assume there is a "latest meet time" but
couldn't tell you what it is. They then travel in 1 vehicle as
a team from the hotel 1.5-2hrs pre-kick off.
[/quote]
Out of interest, do you know if Bournemouth would have travelled
up to Aston Villa on Saturday on the day of the game or the day
before?
Presumably Graham Scott travelled down from Oxford to London on
Saturday for his VAR duties. The game didn't finish until
7.30pmish so even if he left right at the final whistle (which I
doubt) then it wouldn't be the earliest of nights. If he didn't
leave until an hour or two after the game had finished then he's
probably not getting back before MOTD. Then he's got to get up
relatively early on the Sunday morning to travel back. It hardly
seems the best possible preparation for refereeing a Premier
League match when a hotel could easily be organised in the local
area for the Saturday night, ensuring that Scott is in the area
for the Sunday game and providing better preparation than the
fatigue that could be caused by travelling back and forth.
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Teams are treated very differently in terms of travelling to
referees & always have been. Clubs pay themselves if they want
an overnight stay at a hotel so AFCB could, if they so chose to
stay at a hotel in Southampton the night before a game despite
it only being a 30 min drive away. They have actually done so
before now. A referee would never be given that option, unless
they wanted to pay for the hotel themselves, they'd certainly
not be granted expenses for it. Not sure about AFCB travel now,
certainly in the pre-PL days they would have travelled up on the
day, I have sat many a time on the official supporters coach
travelling in convoy with the team coach to a game and even
further afield than the midlands. Since the PL days though the
club have often chartered a plane for the team to travel on & I
believe they flew from Hurn airport to Birmingham on Saturday
am. The biggest difference of course, even if a team and a
referee both travel by road is that the referee will be driving
himself and a team would be sat on a coach with an option to
wander about the coach, stretch their legs, have a nap, not have
to concentrate on other road users etc.
The PL simply won't stump up the cash to pay for overnight stays
for referees despite it being the common sense thing to do in
terms of match preparation. It took them until only about 2
years ago to finally bring in a rule of a minimum of 48hrs
between kick off times for referees, which do not apply to 4th
officials or those on VAR duties. It didn't matter before if a
referee did a Thursday night game in Europe, travelled back to
the UK on the Friday and then off to somewhere or another in
England for a Saturday game. At least now, that should no longer
happen if they are referee on both games - it can however still
happen if they are 4O in either match despite the travel being
equally as excessive!
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Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: August 20, 2019, 11:40 am
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--- Quote from: greeny link ---
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> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=954.msg10065#msg10065
date=1566142001]
> [quote author=Charlton2018 link=topic=954.msg10060#msg10060
date=1566141024]
> Exactly what I was thinking. He was on VAR last night so why
not stay in London?
>
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If someone is at Stockley Park on Saturday night, you’d
certainly think they should be able to get to Stamford Bridge
for Sunday afternoon.
Kavanagh, Pawson and Hooper were all VAR at SP yesterday. Surely
one of those could have been FO initially today?
Who is AVAR now? The same as earlier game? Mike Dean could be
kept busy today. Hope Langford delays the whistle for close
offsides and so on.
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I would assume Robathan, as Graham Scott has now arrived at
Stamford Bridge.
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I believe Scott only arrived 20 minutes before kick-off so I
guess it depends if Robathan was sent to Stamford Bridge or not
in case Scott didn't arrive.
If Robathan did go to Stamford Bridge but wasn't required then I
hope he still got his full match fee, which ironically would
probably have been more than the expense of a hotel stay for
Scott!
It seems ridiculous that there is no contingency in place to
provide accommodation to referees the night before a game where
relevant or more practical. Professionalism should include the
nature of the preparation and having to drive yourself for a
couple of hours before a game can't be the best preparation for
refereeing a Premier League football match.
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