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#Post#: 10071--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: August 18, 2019, 11:46 am
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--- Quote from: bigt53uk link ---
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> Thought the officials travelled together to avoid this
happening?
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Do they not make their own way to a designated meeting point and
then travel together from there?
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Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: bmb
Date: August 18, 2019, 12:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
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> [quote author=bigt53uk link=topic=954.msg10069#msg10069
date=1566146311]
> Thought the officials travelled together to avoid this
happening?
>
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Do they not make their own way to a designated meeting point and
then travel together from there?
[/quote]
Yes they do. They meet at a particular hotel, however long
before a game & then travel in a car provided by the PL from the
hotel to the ground about 90 mins before the game & back to the
hotel post match and then travel home separately from there.
Obviously he was stuck in traffic on the way to the hotel & let
whoever know that he was not going to make it and contingency
plans were put in place. I expect he drove straight to the
ground in this instance.
Good Luck Oli.
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Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: bmb
Date: August 18, 2019, 12:13 pm
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--- Quote from: greeny link ---
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> It's confirmed - Oli Langford will be taking charge of the
game. I thought referees stayed in a hotel prior to a match and
made their way to the stadium as a team, but clearly this is not
the case.
>
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They only stay overnight at a hotel when the game is a certain
distance away. Michael Oliver for example would stay at a hotel
(well his in laws in his case but you get the point...) when
appointed to Bournemouth/Southampton/Portsmouth as it is over
the required distance. Andre Marriner though would travel from
the midlands to those 3 on the day of the match as it is below
the required distance. They meet at a local hotel prior to the
game, the time seems to vary from anything between 9am & 12pm
for a 3pm kick off - I assume there is a "latest meet time" but
couldn't tell you what it is. They then travel in 1 vehicle as
a team from the hotel 1.5-2hrs pre-kick off.
#Post#: 10076--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: Hertsref123
Date: August 18, 2019, 12:49 pm
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--- Quote from: greeny link ---
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> It's confirmed - Oli Langford will be taking charge of the
game. I thought referees stayed in a hotel prior to a match and
made their way to the stadium as a team, but clearly this is not
the case.
>
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Graham Scott lives in oxford I believe. London is just down the
m40 from him, so there is no need to stay at a hotel.
#Post#: 10077--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: greeny
Date: August 18, 2019, 1:00 pm
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I thought Langford did well, in what wasn't the most difficult
match. He played a couple of nice advantages and got the yellow
card spot on.
#Post#: 10080--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: rustyref
Date: August 18, 2019, 1:43 pm
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> Scott has arrived so why not delay the KO for 15 mins or so
and get him to warm up!! Total unnecessary pressure on Langford
now!
> With 18 PL referees surely they could have had one from
yesterday acting as 4th official. Absolute total shambles!
>
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They won't delay kick off for one match official being missing
as it causes too many problems. There's too big a knock on to
travel plans for tens of thousands of supporters and the police
wouldn't be supportive of it.
That's why there are four match officials, and also why at
Football League and above they are not allowed to travel to the
meeting point together even if they live next door to each
other. The only reason it is a talking point now is it meant an
SG1 referee getting his PL debut, but with so few SG1 officials
and so many being needed for VAR there's not a lot they can do
but to use SG2s as 4th official.
I've never been a massive fan of Langford in the past, he's
always struck me as competent but nothing more than that and not
stand out. There's something about his body language that
doesn't portray confidence, and its almost as though he doesn't
look like a referee. Credit where credit is due though, he was
fine today and didn't get a lot wrong. Completely messed up an
advantage having just played an excellent one, so they averaged
each other out, and a few foul decisions that I didn't really
agree with but nothing significant.
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Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: DER
Date: August 18, 2019, 2:29 pm
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I thought Langford displayed a competent performance. However, I
found him somewhat reactive to the game’s tempo and to some
counter-attacks.
I also understand that he was interviewed at the same time as
Andy Madley and Peter Bankes for a place on Select Group 1.
All of this did make me think about last week’s appointments -
with two National List newbies (Finnie and Purkiss) being
appointed as Fourth Official on respective Championship matches,
and if there had been similar issues as there were today...
#Post#: 10098--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: RCG
Date: August 19, 2019, 3:26 am
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In fairness it is only a recent(ish) phenomena that referees are
appointed as 4ths. Many a year it has been assistants at
FL/Panel level and before that non FL contrib officials.
#Post#: 10186--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: August 20, 2019, 8:15 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> [quote author=greeny link=topic=954.msg10059#msg10059
date=1566140737]
> It's confirmed - Oli Langford will be taking charge of the
game. I thought referees stayed in a hotel prior to a match and
made their way to the stadium as a team, but clearly this is not
the case.
>
--- End Quote ---
They only stay overnight at a hotel when the game is a certain
distance away. Michael Oliver for example would stay at a hotel
(well his in laws in his case but you get the point...) when
appointed to Bournemouth/Southampton/Portsmouth as it is over
the required distance. Andre Marriner though would travel from
the midlands to those 3 on the day of the match as it is below
the required distance. They meet at a local hotel prior to the
game, the time seems to vary from anything between 9am & 12pm
for a 3pm kick off - I assume there is a "latest meet time" but
couldn't tell you what it is. They then travel in 1 vehicle as
a team from the hotel 1.5-2hrs pre-kick off.
[/quote]
Out of interest, do you know if Bournemouth would have travelled
up to Aston Villa on Saturday on the day of the game or the day
before?
Presumably Graham Scott travelled down from Oxford to London on
Saturday for his VAR duties. The game didn't finish until
7.30pmish so even if he left right at the final whistle (which I
doubt) then it wouldn't be the earliest of nights. If he didn't
leave until an hour or two after the game had finished then he's
probably not getting back before MOTD. Then he's got to get up
relatively early on the Sunday morning to travel back. It hardly
seems the best possible preparation for refereeing a Premier
League match when a hotel could easily be organised in the local
area for the Saturday night, ensuring that Scott is in the area
for the Sunday game and providing better preparation than the
fatigue that could be caused by travelling back and forth.
#Post#: 10189--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chelsea vs Leicester Graham Scott in Traffic!!
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: August 20, 2019, 8:24 am
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I notice that most of the PL TV games this coming weekend all
have SG1 holding the numbers board aside from the game at
Norwich where Stroud is there.
I thought Langford performed fairly well given the
circumstances.... got in the way of play a few times however
given the difference in pace between the PL and the Football
League, and his first game, I would hardly blame him for that.
I've never been a fan of Langford but credit him where it's due.
A good experience nonetheless for him.
(Maybe we will see Kettle get a chance in the PL again given the
NL being used on numbers board duties!)
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