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       Re: Stephanie Frappart Chelsea vs Liverpool 
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: August 16, 2019, 4:31 pm
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       Revolutionary I know but why not
       First, let the officials do their job without unnecessary
       interference
       And
       Accept that Women are eminently capable of Refereeing.
       It looked to myself and some non referees in the pub that some
       players were less fit than M&s Frappart
       #Post#: 10057--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephanie Frappart Chelsea vs Liverpool 
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: August 18, 2019, 9:30 am
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       --- Quote from: Scally Bob link ---
       >
       > I’ve now seen that penalty decision on YouTube and it just
       isn’t a foul. The Assistant, better positioned, clearly flags
       for a goal kick but the Referee is too quick on the whistle and
       has guessed. She must have because if that’s a foul the Laws
       must have changed without anyone telling me. Her position was
       far less credible than the Assistant who knows it’s a goal kick.
       The Chelsea players don’t even claim or react at all-it’s a
       surprise to everyone.
       >
       > It further proves what a load of old nonsense VAR is. They
       slap themselves on the back for Raheem Sterling’s armpit being
       offside yet can’t spot a clear and obvious key match decision in
       a Cup Final.
       >
       > Jurgen Klopp has been gracious in victory but had the result
       not gone our way I doubt he would have been so complimentary.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But the intention is that they do spot them, even if user error
       means sometimes they don’t. If a different VAR official had
       changed the decision, would you have approved of the system?
       #Post#: 10058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephanie Frappart Chelsea vs Liverpool 
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: August 18, 2019, 9:34 am
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       --- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Microscopist link=topic=945.msg9993#msg9993
       date=1565903083]
       > Only saw a bit at the end of the game but she seemed OK and in
       control.  Noticed that the VAR did not seem to be bothering
       about goalkeepers moving off their line for the kicks from the
       penalty spot - particularloy the last one.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have to remember that UEFA were hacked off because the Super
       Cup was being contested by two PL teams and that VAR was not
       important in the grand scale of things because the PL are
       applying their own version anyway so UEFA played them at their
       own game.
       [/quote]
       When it comes to penalising goalkeeper encroachment at penalties
       at least, would it not be fairer to say that it is FIFA who have
       their own version?n
       #Post#: 10078--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephanie Frappart Chelsea vs Liverpool 
   DIR By: Scally Bob
       Date: August 18, 2019, 1:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Scally Bob link=topic=945.msg9997#msg9997
       date=1565952889]
       > I’ve now seen that penalty decision on YouTube and it just
       isn’t a foul. The Assistant, better positioned, clearly flags
       for a goal kick but the Referee is too quick on the whistle and
       has guessed. She must have because if that’s a foul the Laws
       must have changed without anyone telling me. Her position was
       far less credible than the Assistant who knows it’s a goal kick.
       The Chelsea players don’t even claim or react at all-it’s a
       surprise to everyone.
       >
       > It further proves what a load of old nonsense VAR is. They
       slap themselves on the back for Raheem Sterling’s armpit being
       offside yet can’t spot a clear and obvious key match decision in
       a Cup Final.
       >
       > Jurgen Klopp has been gracious in victory but had the result
       not gone our way I doubt he would have been so complimentary.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But the intention is that they do spot them, even if user error
       means sometimes they don’t. If a different VAR official had
       changed the decision, would you have approved of the system?
       [/quote]
       I’m sorry I don’t understand your question.
       I don’t agree with VAR. I believe it’s driven by the new owners
       of football, the TV, and is an affront to people like me who pay
       good money to go to games. TV wants the atmosphere but treats
       fans like dirt.
       Football is too dynamic for this interference. It’s an
       abomination.
       #Post#: 10079--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Stephanie Frappart Chelsea vs Liverpool 
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: August 18, 2019, 1:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: Scally Bob link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=945.msg10057#msg10057
       date=1566138602]
       > [quote author=Scally Bob link=topic=945.msg9997#msg9997
       date=1565952889]
       > I’ve now seen that penalty decision on YouTube and it just
       isn’t a foul. The Assistant, better positioned, clearly flags
       for a goal kick but the Referee is too quick on the whistle and
       has guessed. She must have because if that’s a foul the Laws
       must have changed without anyone telling me. Her position was
       far less credible than the Assistant who knows it’s a goal kick.
       The Chelsea players don’t even claim or react at all-it’s a
       surprise to everyone.
       >
       > It further proves what a load of old nonsense VAR is. They
       slap themselves on the back for Raheem Sterling’s armpit being
       offside yet can’t spot a clear and obvious key match decision in
       a Cup Final.
       >
       > Jurgen Klopp has been gracious in victory but had the result
       not gone our way I doubt he would have been so complimentary.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But the intention is that they do spot them, even if user error
       means sometimes they don’t. If a different VAR official had
       changed the decision, would you have approved of the system?
       [/quote]
       I’m sorry I don’t understand your question.
       I don’t agree with VAR. I believe it’s driven by the new owners
       of football, the TV, and is an affront to people like me who pay
       good money to go to games. TV wants the atmosphere but treats
       fans like dirt.
       Football is too dynamic for this interference. It’s an
       abomination.
       [/quote]
       Very true and this is why, after travelling to support my team
       for 68 seasons, I shall cease going to PL matches and go and
       watch football, at any level, which still respects the onfield
       officials and their decisions ---whether they be correct or
       otherwise.
       Mind you, we may end up getting relegated and I can continue my
       quest unless the Championship introduces VAR, which I think is
       more than likely. C'est la vie!
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