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       Re: FA  Cup
   DIR By: guest42
       Date: August 25, 2019, 1:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
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       > [quote author=BAFRA #217 link=topic=934.msg10328#msg10328
       date=1566642891]
       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=934.msg10324#msg10324
       date=1566604245]
       > Shame on you..... with a shortage of referees, why dont you
       referee proper football?  Or is it the striped shirt you like?
       ;)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I did it for 18 years (made it to the Contrib) - but ended up
       quitting due to the abuse on Sunday mornings and lack of support
       from those higher up.
       [/quote]
       Sadly, you are not the only one who has suffered in this way. I
       notice that one of our local Sunday morning leagues is short of
       officials and we are only two weeks into the season. The league,
       which a few years ago had over 40 teams, is now down to 15 teams
       and struggling for officials.
       Having said that, the American Football scene is increasing in
       this area. Good luck to you --still officiating!
       [/quote]
       Thank you sir - where abouts are you based?
       Last day of the season for me today until the end of September -
       I’ve got the Under 19s Southern Area Finals up at Stourbridge.
       Then I can relax and rest up!
       #Post#: 10367--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FA  Cup
   DIR By: cwh
       Date: August 25, 2019, 2:35 am
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       It is interesting Ashington46 what you say about your local
       Sunday League - here in the Salisbury area in 'the Salisbury and
       District League ' on Saturdays at one stage there were 7
       Divisions  all with at least 12 teams in each one and now they
       are struggling to keep just one going - I wonder why there is
       this decline in local football - is it lack of interest , plenty
       of other things to do ,too expensive ?  - and of course this is
       having an effect on recruiting of referees as there are less
       matches for them too learn the trade -  I refereed for several
       years at this level and thoroughly enjoyed the experience,by and
       large, of visiting all the small village teams that were in the
       League and made many friends in doing so ( and some enemies,
       particularly when turning up at some grounds with the comment
       'Oh no not you again)- --happy days never it seems destined to
       return
       #Post#: 10368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FA  Cup
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: August 25, 2019, 3:56 am
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       --- Quote from: cwh link ---
       >
       > It is interesting Ashington46 what you say about your local
       Sunday League - here in the Salisbury area in 'the Salisbury and
       District League ' on Saturdays at one stage there were 7
       Divisions  all with at least 12 teams in each one and now they
       are struggling to keep just one going - I wonder why there is
       this decline in local football - is it lack of interest , plenty
       of other things to do ,too expensive ?  - and of course this is
       having an effect on recruiting of referees as there are less
       matches for them too learn the trade -  I refereed for several
       years at this level and thoroughly enjoyed the experience,by and
       large, of visiting all the small village teams that were in the
       League and made many friends in doing so ( and some enemies,
       particularly when turning up at some grounds with the comment
       'Oh no not you again)- --happy days never it seems destined to
       return
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: BAFRA #217 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=934.msg10329#msg10329
       date=1566644217]
       > [quote author=BAFRA #217 link=topic=934.msg10328#msg10328
       date=1566642891]
       > [quote author=nemesis link=topic=934.msg10324#msg10324
       date=1566604245]
       > Shame on you..... with a shortage of referees, why dont you
       referee proper football?  Or is it the striped shirt you like?
       ;)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I did it for 18 years (made it to the Contrib) - but ended up
       quitting due to the abuse on Sunday mornings and lack of support
       from those higher up.
       [/quote]
       Sadly, you are not the only one who has suffered in this way. I
       notice that one of our local Sunday morning leagues is short of
       officials and we are only two weeks into the season. The league,
       which a few years ago had over 40 teams, is now down to 15 teams
       and struggling for officials.
       Having said that, the American Football scene is increasing in
       this area. Good luck to you --still officiating!
       [/quote]
       Thank you sir - where abouts are you based?
       Last day of the season for me today until the end of September -
       I’ve got the Under 19s Southern Area Finals up at Stourbridge.
       Then I can relax and rest up!
       [/quote]
       I am originally from Lancashire, however, I have been based in
       Northumberland for well over 30 years and as my name suggests I
       am based in Ashington.
       The decline in local football up here is very similar to what
       has happened in Salisbury with many Leagues folding, both on
       Saturday and Sunday, because of a lack of players but also a
       lack of money.
       I suppose that we shouldn't be hijacking a thread about the FA
       Cup, however, if the trend continues it will affect the number
       of clubs entering the competition.
       One of the big problems up here has been the closure of many
       working mens' clubs and pubs which all used to have teams. In
       addition, many of these clubs had been run by people who had
       done the job for years and as they retired there was a distinct
       lack of younger lads willing to take on the running of a team.
       Also, the price of hiring pitches has increased by a lot,
       however, the facilities have not improved significantly because
       the money is channeled into other areas..
       As you have said, this has a knock on effect for young referees
       because they used to get experience from the local leagues.
       Having seen both Mark Clattenberg and Michael Oliver come
       through this system we know that it can be extremely helpful in
       their development.
       Just what the answer is, I do not know, however, the senior
       league, outside the pyramid system,  which is thriving the most
       in the north east is the over 40s league which plays matches on
       Saturday morning and can involve teams travelling round trips of
       over 100 miles to fulfil a league fixture.
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