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Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Acme Thunderer Date: August 31, 2018, 1:43 pm
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I've now been able to access the picture. This photo appeared in
a Fulham v Charlton match programme in August 1977 and showed
Terry Bullivant in action v Chelsea. The game v Chelsea was
played the previous April and the programme (via LF's v good
Fulham programme thread) indicates that the referee was Tom Bune
from Billingshurst, with linesmen D S Bone and R L Woolben. Not
sure whether this is helpful or whether this could possibly be
someone other than Tom, but over to you for comment.
#Post#: 465--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Acme Thunderer Date: August 31, 2018, 2:01 pm
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Following on from my previous post, I note that Fulham also
played Chelsea in the Anglo- Scottish Cup in August 1977 just
before the season started. Referee is shown as Clive White of
Harrow although I am not sure whether the guy pictured is him.
Perhaps Darryl Reeves replaced him for some reason.
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Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Left Field Date: September 1, 2018, 12:50 pm
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It's certainly a mystery. I think the picture may be
mis-captioned in the Fulham programme and is actually from a
game v Orient - an opponent can be partially seen in the
background and the trim on the kit (particularly the socks)
seems to fit Orient more than Chelsea. Even if it is versus
Orient that doesn't help much as the clubs played each other
three times at Craven Cottage in various competitions that
month! None of the billed referees for those games or the one
versus Chelsea seems to resemble this man. Darryl Reeves seems
more likely but I'm not convinced about him either. If it's not
him or any of the listed referees I don't know who it could be.
#Post#: 609--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Left Field Date: September 4, 2018, 12:10 pm
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Here is a picture from 1966 - Leeds v Fulham. Referee isn't
known but looks a little like Arthur Jones. Muddy pitches like
this one aren't seen too much these days!
[attachimg=1]
#Post#: 613--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Whistleblower Date: September 4, 2018, 12:24 pm
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Yes, it certainly does look like A W S . I would strongly
concur. He was a very fine referee who probably deserved more in
the way of honours than he received.
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Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Left Field Date: September 4, 2018, 3:03 pm
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On the subject of Arthur Jones here is an article from 1977 as
he approached retirement. As well as looking back on his career
it also points to much that has changed in refereeing,
particularly at the top level.
[attachimg=1]
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Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Whistleblower Date: September 4, 2018, 3:28 pm
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Thank you for posting this Left Field, I found it to be a very
interesting read. I'm surprised A W S doesn't mention his
running the line in a European Cup Final ( to Pat Partridge, Ken
Burns being the other linesman ) but perhaps that came right at
the end of his career and the appointment hadn't been made when
he gave this interview.
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Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Acme Thunderer Date: September 4, 2018, 3:33 pm
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[quote author=Left Field link=topic=9.msg500#msg500
date=1535824233]
It's certainly a mystery. I think the picture may be
mis-captioned in the Fulham programme and is actually from a
game v Orient - an opponent can be partially seen in the
background and the trim on the kit (particularly the socks)
seems to fit Orient more than Chelsea. Even if it is versus
Orient that doesn't help much as the clubs played each other
three times at Craven Cottage in various competitions that
month! None of the billed referees for those games or the one
versus Chelsea seems to resemble this man. Darryl Reeves seems
more likely but I'm not convinced about him either. If it's not
him or any of the listed referees I don't know who it could be.
[/quote]
The three refs for the Fulham v Orient games are shown as Alan
Robinson, Ray Lewis and Mike Taylor, and I would agree that the
guy pictured is none of these. As you say, a bit of a mystery.
The game refereed by Ray Lewis had Surrey linesmen John Kensett
from Croydon and Derek Simmons from Oxted. Both great guys and
good to see their names mentioned after so many years.
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Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: Grahamexref Date: September 4, 2018, 6:36 pm
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Slightly off topic, but mention of Ray Lewis (from Great
Bookham, wonderful domecile for a ref) evokes great memories.
Besides achieving FIFA status, Ray had the unenviable
distinction of refereeing three FACSFs, in 1987, 1989
(Hillsboro') and 1991 without ever being appointed to an FACF,
although he was appointed to a LCF.
An extremely capable referee, a wonderful racanteur, whom I had
the great pleasure to meet on several occasions during his
distinguished career.
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Re: Who was the referee? Appeals for information
By: reflector Date: September 5, 2018, 2:29 am
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[quote author=Grahamexref link=topic=9.msg632#msg632
date=1536104211]
Slightly off topic, but mention of Ray Lewis (from Great
Bookham, wonderful domecile for a ref) evokes great memories.
Besides achieving FIFA status, Ray had the unenviable
distinction of refereeing three FACSFs, in 1987, 1989
(Hillsboro') and 1991 without ever being appointed to an FACF,
although he was appointed to a LCF.
An extremely capable referee, a wonderful racanteur, whom I had
the great pleasure to meet on several occasions during his
distinguished career.
[/quote]
Strange he never got the Final. I wonder if there are any other
refs who were appointed to three FA Cup Semis without getting
the Final.
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