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       Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: Pm2
       Date: October 10, 2026, 12:00 pm
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       Not a great start by Atwell. How that’s not a foul on cunha
       28mins beyond me
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: October 10, 2026, 1:08 pm
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       What a melon Bentacur is… utter stupidity to head butt Shaw.
       Definitely a red and well spotted by Attwell.
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: HantsRef
       Date: October 10, 2026, 1:12 pm
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       Game has got feisty in the second half. Been well managed by
       Attwell - don't think he's missed any yellows and got the
       Bentancur red spot on.
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: October 10, 2026, 1:15 pm
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       I think Attwell has been very good this evening… things really
       did get toxic and he’s had no choice but to go to the cards to
       keep a lid on things..
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: October 10, 2026, 1:16 pm
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       Shaw should have gone for a forceful push in my opinion but I
       guess it's supportable in law. Yet again, the retaliator gets
       the red who wouldn't have headbutted his opponent if he hadn't
       been pushed over. On second thoughts, perhaps the melon would
       still have lost it!
       These two teams are baffling to say the least but I feel Atwell
       got it right however much I am uncomfortable with it.
       A feisty finish to manage.
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: HantsRef
       Date: October 10, 2026, 1:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
       >
       > Shaw should have gone for a forceful push in my opinion but I
       guess it's supportable in law. Yet again, the retaliator gets
       the red who wouldn't have headbutted his opponent if he hadn't
       been pushed over. On second thoughts, perhaps the melon would
       still have lost it!
       > These two teams are baffling to say the least but I feel
       Atwell got it right however much I am uncomfortable with it.
       > A feisty finish to manage.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       IMO a yellow for Shaw was the right decision. I wouldn't say his
       shove used excessive force or was brutal.
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: dave26
       Date: October 10, 2026, 1:31 pm
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       I thought Attwell did very well he set his stall out early on
       with a YC his biggest weakness/flaw is dissent he allows far to
       many players to crowd him at once without any sanction
       As for Utd lucky not to lose and Martinez is another melon he
       could have easily headed or dealt with the cross for the spurs
       goal instead he focused on the player and grappled with him
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: Ryanellis
       Date: October 10, 2026, 3:42 pm
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       Same thoughts as others really, kept a lid on things and good to
       see he didn’t rely on going to the monitor to produce the red.
       As another poster said about crowding - I thought that too. I’d
       of had 2/3 players in the book after the handbags for crowding
       round the ref
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: chris.g?ld?r
       Date: October 10, 2026, 4:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
       >
       > Shaw should have gone for a forceful push in my opinion but I
       guess it's supportable in law. Yet again, the retaliator gets
       the red who wouldn't have headbutted his opponent if he hadn't
       been pushed over. On second thoughts, perhaps the melon would
       still have lost it!
       > These two teams are baffling to say the least but I feel
       Atwell got it right however much I am uncomfortable with it.
       > A feisty finish to manage.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure I agree that Shaw was the aggressor. He was
       reacting to Bentancur launching himself pretty forcefully with a
       scissors type tackle at him. Now given Shaw suffered a
       horrendous leg break a few years ago, I think Shaw's reaction,
       whilst not within the laws of the game, was understandable. He
       was reacting to what could have been a serious injury had
       Bentancur properly connected with his tackle. This is what
       caused the incident, I would not suggest Shaw was the aggressor
       at all. In fact unlike some of this other colleagues
       (Fernandes), Shaw is actually very rarely involved in these type
       of incidents.
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       Re: Stuart Attwell: Man United v Spurs
   DIR By: Leggy
       Date: October 11, 2026, 5:49 am
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       --- Quote from: HantsRef link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Failed Ref link=topic=8456.msg112618#msg112618
       date=1791656193]
       > Shaw should have gone for a forceful push in my opinion but I
       guess it's supportable in law. Yet again, the retaliator gets
       the red who wouldn't have headbutted his opponent if he hadn't
       been pushed over. On second thoughts, perhaps the melon would
       still have lost it!
       > These two teams are baffling to say the least but I feel
       Atwell got it right however much I am uncomfortable with it.
       > A feisty finish to manage.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       IMO a yellow for Shaw was the right decision. I wouldn't say his
       shove used excessive force or was brutal.
       Shaw used two hands, with some force to the top of the chest.
       Its "referee's call", but mine would have been red.  The degree
       of force can reasonably be described as violent - it wasn't a
       "petty" push but a meaningful shove.
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