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       C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: September 6, 2026, 3:26 am
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       Haven’t seen any footage as I’m currently 35000 ft above
       Slovenia at the moment, but I see on the bbc website that there
       seems to be a lot of grumbles about VAR coming in and getting
       involved to disallow a Forest goal for handball?
       Was it correct?
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       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: Charlieboy
       Date: September 6, 2026, 4:08 am
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       After 18 hours and watching hundreds of replays I’m not sure ,
       so that is probably clear and obvious as far as var is concerned
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       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: CollinasEyes
       Date: September 6, 2026, 5:40 am
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       More importantly how do you get such good wifi on a plane to
       post on here? 🤣
       #Post#: 111248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: chris.g?ld?r
       Date: September 6, 2026, 7:26 am
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       --- Quote from: Charlieboy link ---
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       > After 18 hours and watching hundreds of replays I’m not sure ,
       so that is probably clear and obvious as far as var is concerned
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Just about the perfect summary of the competency of our
       officials to use technology.
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       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: September 6, 2026, 7:54 am
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       --- Quote from: CollinasEyes link ---
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       > More importantly how do you get such good wifi on a plane to
       post on here? 🤣
       >
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       British Airways wi fi was exemplary!
       #Post#: 111255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: September 6, 2026, 8:23 am
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       Not sure about clear and obvious. It is a matter of fact. Did
       the ball touch the player's arm or not? I guess if VAR sees
       something he cannot unsee it.
       Silly law imho but you have work with it. IMHO, Forest were
       unlucky.
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       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: mac
       Date: September 6, 2026, 10:08 am
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       Is it clearly and obviously a matter of fact?! Not a criticism…I
       genuinely don’t know.
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       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: September 7, 2026, 2:46 am
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       Maybe Forest fans and manager should apologise. Furthermore,
       before you speak check your facts or give credit to var. The
       footage I have seen this morning on Sky from the in goal camera
       clearly shows Williams handled the ball  causing a significant
       deflection. I guess this was available to var.
       Interesting though that var have access to images SKY don't. I
       must remember that next time!
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       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: SuffolkRef
       Date: September 7, 2026, 5:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
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       > Maybe Forest fans and manager should apologise. Furthermore,
       before you speak check your facts or give credit to var. The
       footage I have seen this morning on Sky from the in goal camera
       clearly shows Williams handled the ball  causing a significant
       deflection. I guess this was available to var.
       > Interesting though that var have access to images SKY don't. I
       must remember that next time!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not quite. From Ref Watch this morning, the additional footage
       was from a "tactical camera" that VAR does not have access to.
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0lr4401rw0o
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       Re: C PAWSON - Forest v Tottenham
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: September 7, 2026, 6:46 am
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       I noticed that on Ref Watch. What is interesting is that if you
       follow the incident through logically, if it didn't hit
       Williams' right arm, missed his head then what did it it? The
       only answer is his left arm and when you look at the incident
       from the other side you can see the ball move the other way
       having hit Williams' left hand. When you see that, you cannot
       unsee it. Praise to VAR here and I understand from Dale
       Johnson's comment on the BBC Sport page that ProRef are very
       unhappy at the criticism directed at the VAR, believing the
       decision was right. Of course Tactical Cam proves it. I guess
       that as VAR is so disliked by so many it is easy to criticise it
       but the truth is that it is right far more times than wrong and
       is an easy subject for unhappy supporters to have a pop at. Well
       done Peter Bankes.
       So following the West Bromwich incident Williams, will he be
       suspended for 2 games for trying to deceive the referee? The
       only reason he said it hit his head was to avoid an FA charge? I
       joke because I can quite believe that Williams couldn't
       accurately recall what happened and he comes across as a sincere
       young man.
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