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#Post#: 109180--------------------------------------------------
Re:
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: mbj44
Date: July 15, 2026, 2:56 pm
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So far Elfath is managing to keep a lid on it, just. Hes done
better than I was expecting, but theres still 45 to go and the
pressure will only ramp up more. Yellow cards were needed and
calmed it a bit but the persistent fouling needs to be clamped
down on sooner rather than later.
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Re:
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: Affy_Moose
Date: July 15, 2026, 2:56 pm
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A lot of amateur dramatics from both sides. A lot about nothing.
Tuchel’s antics are unacceptable, however.
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Re:
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: Original82
Date: July 15, 2026, 2:58 pm
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Nobody in the world of senior refereeing would have wanted or
expected a card for persistent, in this game, being the first
caution. And, in reality, the players wouldn't really have
wanted it.
#Post#: 109183--------------------------------------------------
Re:
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England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: rustyref
Date: July 15, 2026, 2:59 pm
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--- Quote from: BabyRef link ---
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> Terrible card technique there - waving it around to nobody in
particular
>
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Kind of agree, but it was kicking off and he obviously got the
card out to show he was in control of it. It didn't look great,
especially as he couldn't find the player he was cautioning, but
he would probably argue it worked as it contained the
flashpoint.
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Re:
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: arabref
Date: July 15, 2026, 2:59 pm
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--- Quote from: Ryanellis link ---
>
> [quote author=TA_Ref link=topic=8243.msg109177#msg109177
date=1784145126]
> Impressive performance from Elfath so far. Authoritative,
great man management and consistent foul detection. Not fallen
for any theatrics and has always kept a calm head.
>
> Both yellow cards were absolutely spot on. I’ll be interested
to see if any YC’s are awarded for persistent infringement
(Simeone must be close).
>
> Two things
>
> I don’t like this carding technique. It looks terrible to be
honest.
>
> 3 mins added on? I thought 3 was how many you get for the
hydration break. You’re telling me there was no other stoppages
in the rest of the half…
>
--- End Quote ---
Agree with all that. When Anderson got booked, why did Elfath
take his yellow out quick and wave it around in the air? What’s
the point? It was like he was cautioning everyone there. Just
wait till it fizzles down or go straight to the player you’re
cautioning.
[/quote]
As much as I agree it looked messy, was it maybe to tell the
players the caution was coming? “I’m going to give the yellow so
quit your pushing and shoving”
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Re:
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England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: Affy_Moose
Date: July 15, 2026, 3:00 pm
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--- Quote from: Original82 link ---
>
> Nobody in the world of senior refereeing would have wanted or
expected a card for persistent, in this game, being the first
caution. And, in reality, the players wouldn't really have
wanted it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Correct. These games are officiated differently. The first card
has to be earned - particularly in *this* game and **this**
World Cup.
#Post#: 109186--------------------------------------------------
Re:
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: Joecphillips
Date: July 15, 2026, 3:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Affy_Moose link ---
>
> [quote author=Original82 link=topic=8243.msg109182#msg109182
date=1784145501]
> Nobody in the world of senior refereeing would have wanted or
expected a card for persistent, in this game, being the first
caution. And, in reality, the players wouldn't really have
wanted it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Correct. These games are officiated differently. The first card
has to be earned - particularly in *this* game and **this**
World Cup.
[/quote]
So how many fouls does a player have to commit before he can be
booked for persistent? Anderson and Bellingham are both on pace
according to ai to end up as the 2nd most fouled players in a
world cup game
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Re:
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England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: Affy_Moose
Date: July 15, 2026, 3:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Joecphillips link ---
>
> [quote author=Affy_Moose link=topic=8243.msg109185#msg109185
date=1784145606]
> [quote author=Original82 link=topic=8243.msg109182#msg109182
date=1784145501]
> Nobody in the world of senior refereeing would have wanted or
expected a card for persistent, in this game, being the first
caution. And, in reality, the players wouldn't really have
wanted it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Correct. These games are officiated differently. The first card
has to be earned - particularly in *this* game and **this**
World Cup.
[/quote]
So how many fouls does a player have to commit before he can be
booked for persistent? Anderson and Bellingham are both on pace
according to ai to end up as the 2nd most fouled players in a
world cup game
[/quote]
There is no number. Cheap and soft cautions aren’t happening in
this WC. It’ll result in a caution when the ref believes it
becomes a problem.
#Post#: 109188--------------------------------------------------
Re:
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: dave26
Date: July 15, 2026, 3:13 pm
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I do feel for the referee a semi final between two countries
like these it’s a honour to referee as semi final…but the
pressure on him must be enormous as because in my view and
plenty of others it’s a political appointment and not
necessarily on merit. I feel that so far as we approach the 52nd
minute he’s been ok .
#Post#: 109189--------------------------------------------------
Re:
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England vs Argentina 🇦🇷 - Ismail Elfath USA
DIR By: Ryanellis
Date: July 15, 2026, 3:21 pm
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--- Quote from: arabref link ---
>
> [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=8243.msg109178#msg109178
date=1784145341]
> [quote author=TA_Ref link=topic=8243.msg109177#msg109177
date=1784145126]
> Impressive performance from Elfath so far. Authoritative,
great man management and consistent foul detection. Not fallen
for any theatrics and has always kept a calm head.
>
> Both yellow cards were absolutely spot on. I’ll be interested
to see if any YC’s are awarded for persistent infringement
(Simeone must be close).
>
> Two things
>
> I don’t like this carding technique. It looks terrible to be
honest.
>
> 3 mins added on? I thought 3 was how many you get for the
hydration break. You’re telling me there was no other stoppages
in the rest of the half…
>
--- End Quote ---
Agree with all that. When Anderson got booked, why did Elfath
take his yellow out quick and wave it around in the air? What’s
the point? It was like he was cautioning everyone there. Just
wait till it fizzles down or go straight to the player you’re
cautioning.
[/quote]
As much as I agree it looked messy, was it maybe to tell the
players the caution was coming? “I’m going to give the yellow so
quit your pushing and shoving”
[/quote]
Yeah I can see that argument too 👍🏼
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