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       #Post#: 107835--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: June 23, 2026, 5:56 pm
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       Live I thought Pickford might've been going for an early shower,
       after first replay I thought the ref called it right. I can
       understand the ref not giving a foul for the Konsa challenge in
       the penalty area on-field as he's caught out of position/bad
       angle, but how the VAR hasn't recommended a review for it is
       beyond me - he's dived in off the ground, clearly fouls the
       attacker, the only touch of the ball he gets is it hitting his
       arse as he lands! There was eventually an indirect free kick to
       England for something*, but I'm not sure what it was for.
       I think it was a difficult game to referee given how physical
       both sides were - felt much like a PL game - but there seemed to
       be a degree of randomness as to what was/wasn't being called as
       a foul, and the incident with the Ghana defender staying down
       after a collision with Kane was very poorly managed - he only
       stops play after the keeper's thrown it straight to an England
       player, 12 seconds after the contact happens, and then ends up
       giving a Ghana free kick a further 30 seconds after that, while
       also forgetting that the Ghana player needed to leave the FoP as
       play was stopped for his 'injury'.
       *EDIT: There was an offside in the goal area after the Konsa
       challenge, for which the indirect free kick was taken just
       inside the penalty area
       #Post#: 107836--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: dave26
       Date: June 23, 2026, 6:04 pm
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       Regarding the possible RC for Konsa for being last man , I
       watched the match and didn’t see anything at all that was
       offside . Yet the referee gave a offside decision , overall it
       was just an underwhelming performance by the referee
       #Post#: 107837--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: June 23, 2026, 6:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: dave26 link ---
       >
       > Regarding the possible RC for Konsa for being last man , I
       watched the match and didn’t see anything at all that was
       offside . Yet the referee gave a offside decision , overall it
       was just an underwhelming performance by the referee
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm watching it again at the moment, the offside comes after the
       Konsa 'foul' - Ghana player plays the ball forward while on the
       floor, straight at his teammate in an offside position in the
       goal area. The indirect free kick ends up being taken only just
       inside the penalty area...
       #Post#: 107838--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: olliebcafc
       Date: June 23, 2026, 7:45 pm
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       I thought he had a good game and struggle to understand the
       number of complaints online. The penalty incident: I thought
       Ghana had a strong shout, probably was a penalty but don’t think
       it’s a howler. Don’t see how it can be a red card for Konsa
       either? The Pickford one he called right. Everything else was
       fine no issues for me
       #Post#: 107839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: Scally Bob
       Date: June 24, 2026, 12:24 am
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       --- Quote from: ARF link ---
       >
       > [quote author=dave26 link=topic=8161.msg107836#msg107836
       date=1782255889]
       > Regarding the possible RC for Konsa for being last man , I
       watched the match and didn’t see anything at all that was
       offside . Yet the referee gave a offside decision , overall it
       was just an underwhelming performance by the referee
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm watching it again at the moment, the offside comes after the
       Konsa 'foul' - Ghana player plays the ball forward while on the
       floor, straight at his teammate in an offside position in the
       goal area. The indirect free kick ends up being taken only just
       inside the penalty area...
       [/quote]
       The ball to the Ghana player who was in an offside position was
       played deliberately by an England defender so there was no
       offside offence.
       It was a clear penalty.
       #Post#: 107840--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: Jackinthebox
       Date: June 24, 2026, 2:18 am
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       In real time I thought Pickford could be in  trouble but it
       certainly wasn't DOGSO. Again in real time looked a good tackle
       by Konza so can understand the decison of play on but on 2nd
       viewing definitely a penalty, can not see how it's DOGSO though
       as its a genuine attempt to play the ball.
       Not overly impressed with Martinez which started off when he
       refused to call the Hydration brake when James and Ayew were
       down around the 20th minute, surly common sense should have
       prevailed? Set a low bar for free kicks and as such his foul
       detection looked random, some FKs given for minimal contact, the
       next minute some one gets barged in the back and he plays on.
       Thought Bellingham was lucky not to get booked considering he
       booked Rice for something very similar.
       #Post#: 107841--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: June 24, 2026, 2:29 am
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       It’s an absolute stonewall penalty for Ghana. I cannot
       understand why VAR hasn’t seen that and sent him to the screen.
       If they get a penalty and score they potentially win 1-0 and
       likely win the group. Massive repercussions on that now
       Ref was ok nothing special but doubt we will see him again after
       that
       #Post#: 107842--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: adcr85
       Date: June 24, 2026, 3:28 am
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       Couple of points, like the idea of the polls, saw it a couple of
       times during the tournament and good quick way to see opinions.
       However on this one I would have voted for 'racing incident - no
       foul' both players take a rather odd detour away from the ball
       at the last minute and clash together, I'd have just played on -
       then there would have been chaos - free kick to England probably
       the 'safe' decision
       Would have been good to get a poll up for the Konsa challenge -
       think 'penalty - yellow card' would have been the winner
       #Post#: 107843--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: June 24, 2026, 3:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Scally Bob link ---
       >
       > The ball to the Ghana player who was in an offside position
       was played deliberately by an England defender so there was no
       offside offence.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002y4k3/fifa-world-cup-2026-group-stage-england-v-ghana
       2:42:20 - it looks like it's the attacker playing it to me.
       #Post#: 107845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Ghana - Ref:Said Martinez (HON)  VAR:Armanda
       Villareal (USA)
   DIR By: gooner
       Date: June 24, 2026, 4:32 am
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       hi,
       average to poor performance by both team england and team ref
       for me.
       although ghana got a point, which i'm sure they would have taken
       before the game, they might justifiably feel aggrieved at the
       denial of a stonewall penalty. mr. martinez allowed some fairly
       rough challenges, but also penalised some very soft ones which
       created the impression of inconsistency. declan rice might feel
       disappointed receiving a YC for somrthing so relatively
       innocuous, especially with bellingham not being cautioned at the
       stroke of, and during the walk from the field, at half time
       our 'arry cut an increasingly frustrated figure the longer the
       match went on and seemed to constantly be in the ref's ear about
       some perceived injustice - he also appealed for a foul and went
       down holding his head, then refused to be checked as part of the
       concussion protocol.
       thought in real time the pickford was a 50/50, but after seeing
       replays, it just might be he made initial contact/obstructed the
       attacker.
       disappointing, but not unexpected, the amount of commentary that
       mentioned how frustrated england would be without any mention of
       how well ghana played.
       reality check for the german of what england expects.
       regards
       gnr
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