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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: El Referee
Date: June 19, 2026, 12:12 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
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> Mike Dean had a similar incident at Birmingham when he sent
off a Birmingham player after only discovering Eduardo had
broken his leg.
>
> That time there was no yellow but a delay before he thrust out
the red.
>
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: Lanyardhater
Date: June 19, 2026, 12:22 pm
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A post so good he made it twice!
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: Vassago
Date: June 19, 2026, 12:29 pm
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Clearly VAR stepped in after severity of Kone's injury became
clear. Garay originally issued a YC for #14 and it was upgraded
shortly later.
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: El Referee
Date: June 19, 2026, 12:38 pm
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--- Quote from: Vassago link ---
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> Clearly VAR stepped in after severity of Kone's injury became
clear. Garay originally issued a YC for #14 and it was upgraded
shortly later.
>
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I could well be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that isn’t allowed
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: Vassago
Date: June 19, 2026, 1:11 pm
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--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
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> [quote author=Vassago link=topic=8140.msg107645#msg107645
date=1781890147]
> Clearly VAR stepped in after severity of Kone's injury became
clear. Garay originally issued a YC for #14 and it was upgraded
shortly later.
>
--- End Quote ---
I could well be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that isn’t allowed
[/quote]
Upgrading from YC to RC is allowed but you can't prove that it
was Kone's injury that triggered the upgrade in first place
unless VAR guys confirm it (improbable).
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: Arbitre anglais
Date: June 19, 2026, 1:13 pm
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--- Quote from: TA_Ref link ---
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> Having seen the highlights, the first Qatar red card surely
should’ve been given when the penalty was given because it is a
DOGSO offence with no deliberate play for the ball so the double
jeopardy doesn’t apply here.
>
> Of course that didn’t matter because the offence took place
outside which meant it was an easy red card decision. But it
felt like a poor decision to initially go caution because I
didn’t think it was a deliberate play.
>
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Spot on. Annoying that Unkel stated, as the expert, that it was
automatically a YC because it was a penalty. This isn’t true, as
it has to be a genuine challenge for the ball or realistic
chance of actually getting it - any upper body challenge (push,
pull, etc) when the ball us on the ground is still a RC. She
also stated ‘the point of contact’ is outside - should explain
that it could carry on into the area, as it is another common
misunderstanding that it has to be the first/start of the
contact.
She should really make all that clear, as it’s important for
people to understand, and the commentator was saying it
repeatedly as well.
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: El Referee
Date: June 19, 2026, 1:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Vassago link ---
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> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=8140.msg107646#msg107646
date=1781890681]
> [quote author=Vassago link=topic=8140.msg107645#msg107645
date=1781890147]
> Clearly VAR stepped in after severity of Kone's injury became
clear. Garay originally issued a YC for #14 and it was upgraded
shortly later.
>
--- End Quote ---
I could well be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that isn’t allowed
[/quote]
Upgrading from YC to RC is allowed but you can't prove that it
was Kone's injury that triggered the upgrade in first place
unless VAR guys confirm it (improbable).
[/quote]
Yes you can upgrade YC to RC, but VAR can’t just tell the
referee to do so.
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: bmb
Date: June 19, 2026, 1:22 pm
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--- Quote from: PhiltheRef link ---
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> I can only think that the challenge ticked two of the boxes.
>
> It's difficult to see how a leg breaking challenge, however
innocuous the intentions, has not been delivered with "excessive
force"
>
> The ultimate outcome of serious injury, again despite
innocuous intention, surely means that it was likely to endanger
the safety of an opponent
>
> On it's own merits, and in isolation, without the injury, I
would personally have judged it a cautionary offence
>
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I remember when Stephen Purches suffered a double leg break at
Rochdale in I think 2012. The tackle wasn't even a foul, his
studs got caught in the ground and he was just very unlucky
where the Rochdale player caught him. Effectively ended his
career because he never fully recovered from it. Can't remember
the name of the Rochdale player but he was devastated and went
to visit Purchy in the hospital. Don't think he even got booked
for it & nor should he have.
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: ARF
Date: June 19, 2026, 1:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Vassago link ---
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> Clearly VAR stepped in after severity of Kone's injury became
clear. Garay originally issued a YC for #14 and it was upgraded
shortly later.
>
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Christina Unkel said on commentary at the time that there was no
VAR involvement in the decision to 'upgrade' the card; Dale
Johnson has also confirmed there was no VAR input.
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Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
DIR By: John Treleven
Date: June 19, 2026, 1:46 pm
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Stephen Purches suffered a double leg break at Rochdale in I
think 2012. The tackle wasn't even a foul, his studs got caught
in the ground and he was just very unlucky where the Rochdale
player caught him. Effectively ended his career because he never
fully recovered from it.
Correct - Sat 18.02.2012, Rochdale player was Jason Kennedy
Rochdale 1, Bournemouth 0 - how times have changed!!!
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