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       #Post#: 107616--------------------------------------------------
       Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: June 18, 2026, 6:23 pm
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       Very unusual one here the referee booked the player for a
       challenge, Canada manager could be heard complaining to the 4th
       official who was seemingly agreeing with the initial decision
       and then a few minutes later with the player still receiving
       treatment the referee decided to upgrade it before var got
       involved. Due to the injury there hasn’t been a replay but that
       is how itv say it happened.
       I have now seen it back unfortunate injury do not think that’s a
       red card
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       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: olliebcafc
       Date: June 18, 2026, 6:32 pm
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       I’ve rewinded. It’s a careless foul. Really feel for Kone but
       that is a poor decision. If the game was less one sided I’m sure
       the correct outcome would have been reached.
       I do wonder if VAR recommended a red card but no OFR to prevent
       everyone seeing the replay. The reaction of the Canada players
       was unacceptable and I also felt for the Qatar player who is the
       victim of an unfortunate situation.
       First red card was a good intervention, very hard to see it was
       outside the box on field
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       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: June 18, 2026, 6:40 pm
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       The Qatari #14 was a sending off waiting to happen, he was lucky
       to not already be on a yellow when the initial penalty and
       caution were given! Peculiar with the second red being
       'upgraded' from a caution on-field rather than after a visit to
       the monitor. I think the Canada #22 has been fortunate to escape
       a card so far given that every flare-up has involved him
       reacting to Qatar's fouls.
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       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: TA_Ref
       Date: June 19, 2026, 2:20 am
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       Having seen the highlights, the first Qatar red card surely
       should’ve been given when the penalty was given because it is a
       DOGSO offence with no deliberate play for the ball so the double
       jeopardy doesn’t apply here.
       Of course that didn’t matter because the offence took place
       outside which meant it was an easy red card decision. But it
       felt like a poor decision to initially go caution because I
       didn’t think it was a deliberate play.
       #Post#: 107622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: June 19, 2026, 3:13 am
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       Mike Dean had a similar incident at Birmingham when he sent off
       a Birmingham player after only discovering Eduardo had broken
       his leg.
       That time there was no yellow but a delay before he thrust out
       the red.
       #Post#: 107623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: June 19, 2026, 4:12 am
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       --- Quote from: TA_Ref link ---
       >
       > Having seen the highlights, the first Qatar red card surely
       should’ve been given when the penalty was given because it is a
       DOGSO offence with no deliberate play for the ball so the double
       jeopardy doesn’t apply here.
       >
       > Of course that didn’t matter because the offence took place
       outside which meant it was an easy red card decision. But it
       felt like a poor decision to initially go caution because I
       didn’t think it was a deliberate play.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's a (poor) attempt to challenge for the ball IMO so a caution
       would've been right had the foul been inside.
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       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: mac
       Date: June 19, 2026, 7:05 am
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       Initial contact is a trip so yes dogso yellow is ok if inside.
       Not seen any more than highlights with no replay on the second
       red, but harsh to say Canada’s behaviour is unacceptable given
       they can see a fouled player down with a clearly broken leg.
       Emotion takes over. On that basis, no OFR or announcement seems
       a sensible choice.
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       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: June 19, 2026, 7:41 am
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       The aftermath of the challenge is completely ridiculous and
       unnecessary and happened again at the end.
       It’s a harsh red for me, judge the decision on the tackle itself
       not the outcome. It’s nothing more than reckless, yes it’s sad
       the player got injured but that’s football
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       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: June 19, 2026, 11:23 am
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       I can only think that the challenge ticked two of  the boxes.
       It's difficult to see how a leg breaking challenge, however
       innocuous the intentions, has not been delivered with "excessive
       force"
       The ultimate outcome of serious injury,  again despite innocuous
       intention, surely means that it was likely to endanger the
       safety of an opponent
       On it's own merits, and in isolation, without the injury, I
       would personally have judged it a cautionary offence
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       Re: Canada v Qatar - Christian Garay
   DIR By: El Referee
       Date: June 19, 2026, 12:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Mike Dean had a similar incident at Birmingham when he sent
       off a Birmingham player after only discovering Eduardo had
       broken his leg.
       >
       > That time there was no yellow but a delay before he thrust out
       the red.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Peter Walton came to our society a number of years back and
       discussed his red card for Ryan Shawcross, for a challenge he in
       Aaron Ramsey that resulted in a leg break. He said that he
       didn’t think it was actually worthy of a red card, but once he
       saw the broken leg and the reaction of the Arsenal players, he
       felt he had to send RS off for his own safety more than
       anything.
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