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       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: Pm2
       Date: May 12, 2026, 3:40 pm
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       He lost control lonf hefore that with his inconsistency
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       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: elbee94
       Date: May 12, 2026, 3:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pm2 link ---
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       > He lost control lonf hefore that with his inconsistency
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think that’s some revisionism on what happened afterwards -
       other than the Ayling incident(s) and the manager’s scuffle,
       there’s hardly been a flashpoint (other than the officials
       correctly identifying Peretz trying to get Conway sent off).
       I’m not defending his overall performance, a clear missed
       penalty in the opening minutes and very average since - but i’ll
       defend him in terms of control, I don’t think it’s got out of
       hand in the slightest (so far). I type this while the subs are
       having a bit of a shove 😂
       It’s a tense playoff game, there’s rightly a small amount of
       needle, even more so with what’s happened before the 1st leg.
       Nothing to get too worked up about at the officials for me.
       #Post#: 105815--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: May 12, 2026, 3:46 pm
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       That ballboy should be removed immediately. Would love to have
       seen Madley do something about it.
       #Post#: 105817--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: May 12, 2026, 3:57 pm
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       I dont think ive ever lost count of how many missed penalties a
       referee has not given in a game.
       Ive lost count with Madley i think thats another one just there
       for Southampton. Is that 3 or 4 now?
       #Post#: 105818--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: Pm2
       Date: May 12, 2026, 3:58 pm
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       There’s been 5 pai incidents I think🤔
       I’m not sure on that one tbh.
       Thibk he just got it right
       #Post#: 105819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: May 12, 2026, 4:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: Adam link ---
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       > I dont think ive ever lost count of how many missed penalties
       a referee has not given in a game.
       >
       > Ive lost count with Madley i think thats another one just
       there for Southampton. Is that 3 or 4 now?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think he got that one right, I have it at 3 missed
       #Post#: 105821--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: May 12, 2026, 4:53 pm
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       Absolute garbage from all three teams.
       The only consolation is that, should Southampton gain promotion,
       they have acquired the necessary attributions to fit in with the
       rest of the garbage in the PL.
       What has happened to the great game that I have supported,
       played in, officiated in and been an administrator for 74 years?
       It is never a good watch at the top level  these days. Very sad
       indeed.
       #Post#: 105823--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: May 12, 2026, 4:57 pm
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       Some of the comments here have been absolutely ridiculous, and I
       feel it ties into the previously aired view that once some
       people don't like a certain referee they will put the boot in at
       any opportunity.  Madley made mistakes, there is no dispute
       about that, but he certainly didn't lose control of the game.
       That phrase is a nonsense, 90%+ of times when it is used the
       referee hasn't lost control of anything and rather the players
       have lost the plot.  He handled the alleged discrimination
       perfectly, aside from it wasn't a foul by Ayling and Scienza, as
       he did all game, blatantly simulated.  There was some dissent by
       Ayling following the decision, but the majority of it came after
       the alleged comments made towards him.  Can you even begin to
       imagine the furore that would happen if a referee sent a player
       off for complaining about discriminatory comments made towards
       him?  It could even potentially signal the end of that referee's
       professional career.  I've been involved in this protocol as
       both a referee and observer and it is all quite emotional and
       difficult to deal with, no referee at that level is going to be
       going to his pocket whether for the player reporting it or when
       explaining it to the managers.
       #Post#: 105824--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: TA_Ref
       Date: May 12, 2026, 5:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
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       > Absolute garbage from all three teams.
       > The only consolation is that, should Southampton gain
       promotion, they have acquired the necessary attributions to fit
       in with the rest of the garbage in the PL.
       >
       > What has happened to the great game that I have supported,
       played in, officiated in and been an administrator for 74 years?
       > It is never a good watch at the top level  these days. Very
       sad indeed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Totally agree.
       An awful game to watch. An awful performance from the 3rd team.
       An awful spectacle with the surrounding controversy.
       I do apologise to Luke Ayling after his reaction after the
       alleged discriminatory behaviour. If that was largely the
       reasoning for his comments towards Madley then he is right to do
       so. Madley handled this part very well so kudos to him for that.
       Southampton’s actions over the last week or so (if found guilty)
       have been an utter disgrace. From spygate to the managers
       reaction when Madley was reporting a discriminatory incident to
       the ball boy’s antics.
       On another note, I think this season has proven we should not be
       giving games in the championship to PL officials because some of
       them simply cannot cope without their comfort blanket. Some of
       them look like a polar bear in the desert. Totally lost.
       #Post#: 105825--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andy Madley: Southampton v Middlesborough (Play off 2nd leg)
   DIR By: elbee94
       Date: May 12, 2026, 5:07 pm
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       I know i’ve been in the minority for most of the game - and I
       promise i’m not Bobby or any other Madley in disguise! I agree
       completely with RustyRef, I’m quite surprised at how quickly
       some posters jumped on Madley’s man management. I don’t watch
       much Premier League but there wasn’t too much to get egregiously
       annoyed about in my view.
       A really poor opening decision to not give Boro a penalty but as
       for the rest of normal time, just a couple of mistakes not to
       book Eckhert and get involved with the ball boy altercation (and
       shame on Saints for involving their ballboys and ballgirls if
       they were acting upon instruction). But generally tolerable.
       As for Extra Time, pretty smooth sailing but Madley cruised
       through it and looked the only one on the pitch with anything
       left in the tank.
       Not one he should look back on with too much glee but also not a
       game he should get hung up on.
       I didn’t think it was a bad game at all, Saints worthy winners
       in my view, pending the investigation (although I don’t think
       that should get them thrown out of the playoffs but that’s for
       another time).
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