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       #Post#: 104852--------------------------------------------------
       Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: April 27, 2026, 2:39 pm
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       I can't rewind so im not sure, but in around 34' or 35', when
       Igor Thiago is through on goal and theres a right mix up in the
       box, I think one of the MU defenders plays a back pass to the
       keeper where he picks it up that has gone completely under the
       radar. Would be interested to see if anyone else saw that or am
       I gone crazy.
       #Post#: 104853--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: TA_Ref
       Date: April 27, 2026, 2:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: Adam link ---
       >
       > I can't rewind so im not sure, but in around 34' or 35', when
       Igor Thiago is through on goal and theres a right mix up in the
       box, I think one of the MU defenders plays a back pass to the
       keeper where he picks it up that has gone completely under the
       radar. Would be interested to see if anyone else saw that or am
       I gone crazy.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Understand why you might think that in a replay but watching
       that live I never had any suspicion of a back pass and that
       would’ve been almost impossible for Kavanagh to call on field.
       I’m not certain the pass was deliberate anyway.
       Very good from Kavanagh in this half. Stayed in the background
       and cautioned when needed to.
       #Post#: 104854--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: April 27, 2026, 2:52 pm
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       Easy pickings for Kavanagh in the first half. Both cautions were
       nailed on and has hardly been noticed.
       Entertaining contest thus far.
       #Post#: 104858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: TA_Ref
       Date: April 27, 2026, 3:55 pm
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       Really disappointing from Kavanagh at the end there - penalising
       Collins twice for ‘pushes’ on Casemiro where there was virtually
       no contact and Casemiro went down like an empty packet of crisps
       in the wind.
       A shame because the rest of it from Chris was pretty much
       faultless.
       #Post#: 104859--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: April 27, 2026, 4:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: TA_Ref link ---
       >
       > Really disappointing from Kavanagh at the end there -
       penalising Collins twice for ‘pushes’ on Casemiro where there
       was virtually no contact and Casemiro went down like an empty
       packet of crisps in the wind.
       >
       > A shame because the rest of it from Chris was pretty much
       faultless.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why put hands on him though to give the referee the decision to
       make?  As Gary Neville said, Casemiro totally played Collins, it
       was very naive by the Brentford captain.
       This behaviour by players makes it impossible for referees, they
       have mastered the art of making it look like they were pushed
       when they weren't really.  And that isn't just a criticism of
       Casemiro as I have zero doubt that Collins would have done the
       same if he was defending his own penalty area.
       #Post#: 104860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: TA_Ref
       Date: April 27, 2026, 4:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TA_Ref link=topic=7956.msg104858#msg104858
       date=1777323320]
       > Really disappointing from Kavanagh at the end there -
       penalising Collins twice for ‘pushes’ on Casemiro where there
       was virtually no contact and Casemiro went down like an empty
       packet of crisps in the wind.
       >
       > A shame because the rest of it from Chris was pretty much
       faultless.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why put hands on him though to give the referee the decision to
       make?  As Gary Neville said, Casemiro totally played Collins, it
       was very naive by the Brentford captain.
       This behaviour by players makes it impossible for referees, they
       have mastered the art of making it look like they were pushed
       when they weren't really.  And that isn't just a criticism of
       Casemiro as I have zero doubt that Collins would have done the
       same if he was defending his own penalty area.
       [/quote]
       Because football is a contact sport and you need to actually
       push someone to commit a foul rather than just touch someone.
       Casemiro didn’t ’totally play’ Collins. He totally played the
       referee.
       #Post#: 104861--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: April 27, 2026, 4:14 pm
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       Missed a caution for Fernandes pushing a Brentford player into
       Kavanagh otherwise made it look easy and was always in control.
       Good performance
       #Post#: 104864--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris Kavanagh Man Utd v Brentford
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: April 27, 2026, 4:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: TA_Ref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7956.msg104859#msg104859
       date=1777323641]
       > [quote author=TA_Ref link=topic=7956.msg104858#msg104858
       date=1777323320]
       > Really disappointing from Kavanagh at the end there -
       penalising Collins twice for ‘pushes’ on Casemiro where there
       was virtually no contact and Casemiro went down like an empty
       packet of crisps in the wind.
       >
       > A shame because the rest of it from Chris was pretty much
       faultless.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why put hands on him though to give the referee the decision to
       make?  As Gary Neville said, Casemiro totally played Collins, it
       was very naive by the Brentford captain.
       This behaviour by players makes it impossible for referees, they
       have mastered the art of making it look like they were pushed
       when they weren't really.  And that isn't just a criticism of
       Casemiro as I have zero doubt that Collins would have done the
       same if he was defending his own penalty area.
       [/quote]
       Because football is a contact sport and you need to actually
       push someone to commit a foul rather than just touch someone.
       Casemiro didn’t ’totally play’ Collins. He totally played the
       referee.
       [/quote]
       I would argue he played both, but Collins can control the
       outcome more than Kavanagh can.  The referee will see the arms
       come out, what looks like a push and the player fall over, if
       the arms don't come out he doesn't see that.
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