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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: HChip Date: March 13, 2026, 12:11 pm
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[quote author=TA_Ref link=topic=7789.msg102721#msg102721
date=1773419985]
HTML https://x.com/stuart_watson/status/2032488404424839209?s=46
Ipswich defender Leif Davis has been given a retrospective 3
match ban starting tomorrow at Sheffield Wednesday for an act on
violent conduct in the game against Leicester City.
All I would say is that I hope the FA had better and more
clearer angles than what I have seen. Nothing conclusive to me
that suggests a clear hair pull.
I also love how nothing gets mentioned about the kick out by the
Leicester defender.
I’m all for retrospective punishment but this does not get
handed out enough in my opinion.
[/quote]
Sky Sports report it was for a stamp and push of an opponent in
the 27th minute.
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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: TA_Ref Date: March 13, 2026, 12:25 pm
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[quote author=HChip link=topic=7789.msg102722#msg102722
date=1773421867]
[quote author=TA_Ref link=topic=7789.msg102721#msg102721
date=1773419985]
HTML https://x.com/stuart_watson/status/2032488404424839209?s=46
Ipswich defender Leif Davis has been given a retrospective 3
match ban starting tomorrow at Sheffield Wednesday for an act on
violent conduct in the game against Leicester City.
All I would say is that I hope the FA had better and more
clearer angles than what I have seen. Nothing conclusive to me
that suggests a clear hair pull.
I also love how nothing gets mentioned about the kick out by the
Leicester defender.
I’m all for retrospective punishment but this does not get
handed out enough in my opinion.
[/quote]
Sky Sports report it was for a stamp and push of an opponent in
the 27th minute.
[/quote]
HTML https://x.com/TFWhistle__/status/2032503089333215738?s=20
Fair enough, this is pretty conclusive. I’d like to know if this
the angle the FA had then. I’m intrigued to know how they came
to this conclusion because it certainly isn’t clear from the
normal camera view.
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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: HChip Date: March 23, 2026, 7:55 am
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As stated by the FA today, John Busby emailed the FA a few days
after the game regarding the incident and requested they review
it.
It has certainly enraged Ipswich fans and I cannot see him
refereeing an Ipswich game for a while.
Presuming Busby reviewed footage of the game, saw that he had
missed such incident and requested it to be reviewed.
#Post#: 103157--------------------------------------------------
Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: nemesis Date: March 23, 2026, 10:27 am
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I think there is something terribly wrong with a system whereby
a referee who was subjected to a lot of outrage and outpourings
from an enraged crowd after a wretched performance can spend
hours trawling through a video of the match from all sorts of
angles to find something to retrospectively accuse a player of.
It's a poor look and smacks of vindictiveness.
I hope, but doubt, he spent an equal amount of time reviewing
his errors.
If he was looking to re-referee this game, I wonder what he made
of Azon being held in a head-lock in the same incident and more
particularly Okell's retailiatory kicking out at Davis.
Unfortunately finding out the mechanics of how this charge came
to be has only served to lower my opinion of Busby as a referee
and, now, as a person.
#Post#: 103158--------------------------------------------------
Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: TVOS Date: March 23, 2026, 10:30 am
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[quote author=nemesis link=topic=7789.msg103157#msg103157
date=1774279629]
I think there is something terribly wrong with a system whereby
a referee who was subjected to a lot of (edited )after a
wretched performance can spend hours trawling through a video of
the match from all sorts of angles to find something to
retrospectively accuse a player of. It's a poor look and smacks
of vindictiveness.
I hope, but doubt, he spent an equal amount of time reviewing
his errors.
If he was looking to re-referee this game, I wonder what he made
of Azon being held in a head-lock in the same incident and more
particularly Okell's retailiatory kicking out at Davis.
Unfortunately finding out the mechanics of how this charge came
to be has only served to lower my opinion of Busby as a referee
and, now, as a person.
[/quote]
Unless someone else asked him to look at it...
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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: ShoeRef Date: March 23, 2026, 11:52 am
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[quote author=nemesis link=topic=7789.msg103157#msg103157
date=1774279629]
I think there is something terribly wrong with a system whereby
a referee who was subjected to a lot of (edited)after a wretched
performance can spend hours trawling through a video of the
match from all sorts of angles to find something to
retrospectively accuse a player of. It's a poor look and smacks
of vindictiveness.
I hope, but doubt, he spent an equal amount of time reviewing
his errors.
If he was looking to re-referee this game, I wonder what he made
of Azon being held in a head-lock in the same incident and more
particularly Okell's retailiatory kicking out at Davis.
Unfortunately finding out the mechanics of how this charge came
to be has only served to lower my opinion of Busby as a referee
and, now, as a person.
[/quote]
The bold text makes everything else you say not remotely worth
reading.
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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: Whistleblower Date: March 23, 2026, 12:16 pm
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[quote author=ShoeRef link=topic=7789.msg103169#msg103169
date=1774284733]
[quote author=nemesis link=topic=7789.msg103157#msg103157
date=1774279629]
I think there is something terribly wrong with a system whereby
a referee who was subjected to a lot of (edited)after a wretched
performance can spend hours trawling through a video of the
match from all sorts of angles to find something to
retrospectively accuse a player of. It's a poor look and smacks
of vindictiveness.
I hope, but doubt, he spent an equal amount of time reviewing
his errors.
If he was looking to re-referee this game, I wonder what he made
of Azon being held in a head-lock in the same incident and more
particularly Okell's retailiatory kicking out at Davis.
Unfortunately finding out the mechanics of how this charge came
to be has only served to lower my opinion of Busby as a referee
and, now, as a person.
[/quote]
The bold text makes everything else you say not remotely worth
reading.
[/quote]
I wouldn't put it like that but would, in the strongest terms,
dispute the statement " largely self inflicted abuse ". John
Busby made have had a shocking match but the perpetrator of
abuse is the person responsible for giving it. Too many cases of
domestic abuse are justified by the perpetrator uttering the old
cry "she brought it on herself because of her disrespectful
conduct towards me" or "she was useless and made me justifiably
angry so she deserved it" Abuse is abuse, the guilt lies with
those who give it not those who receive it. Period.
In the Times today is a shocking account of a grassroots referee
who was attacked in a violent and dangerous way after a match by
a coach who had some of his players sent to the sinbin and had
so lost the match. For the sake of argument, let us say that
those sin-binnings were wrong, does that justify the coach's
behaviour ? Or is it that verbal abuse and violence may be
attributable to the one receiving it but physical is not? That
is a very slippery slope to go down.
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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: TA_Ref Date: March 23, 2026, 12:50 pm
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My favourite line from the FA’s report was “and was an invasive
act upon Okoli’s personal space”.
What on earth does that mean? Could someone please explain? This
isn’t a non-contact sport (even though we’re heading down that
path). That is a quite ludicrous statement which serves no
purpose to explain the incident in question.
But honestly, as an ITFC supporter, we have to leave this alone
now. It’s dragged on for far too long. Move forwards and control
what you can control. If we win all our remaining games then we
will achieve our goal of back to the premier league.
As soon as I saw a clear angle of the incident, I knew the
outcome had written itself. The precedent has already been set
this season - Everton v Wolves for Keane’s RC. Any hair-pulling
action is going to result in a red card for violent conduct
which automatically constitutes to a 3 game ban.
There has to be a line drawn under this incident for now and
move on so everyone can look towards the upcoming games.
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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: dave26 Date: March 23, 2026, 1:31 pm
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[quote author=TA_Ref link=topic=7789.msg103173#msg103173
date=1774288208]
My favourite line from the FA’s report was “and was an invasive
act upon Okoli’s personal space”.
What on earth does that mean? Could someone please explain? This
isn’t a non-contact sport (even though we’re heading down that
path). That is a quite ludicrous statement which serves no
purpose to explain the incident in question.
But honestly, as an ITFC supporter, we have to leave this alone
now. It’s dragged on for far too long. Move forwards and control
what you can control. If we win all our remaining games then we
will achieve our goal of back to the premier league.
As soon as I saw a clear angle of the incident, I knew the
outcome had written itself. The precedent has already been set
this season - Everton v Wolves for Keane’s RC. Any hair-pulling
action is going to result in a red card for violent conduct
which automatically constitutes to a 3 game ban.
There has to be a line drawn under this incident for now and
move on so everyone can look towards the upcoming games.
[/quote]
Agreed , as if all parties involved continue to dwell on it
especially Ipswich they could end up losing their focus and not
achieve their goal which is ultimately getting back to the PL as
you say and I have this dreaded fear if they fail we will not
have heard the last of this incident and it could get nasty
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Re: John Busby - Ipswich vs Leicester
By: nemesis Date: March 23, 2026, 5:33 pm
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[quote author=ShoeRef link=topic=7789.msg103169#msg103169
date=1774284733]
[quote author=nemesis link=topic=7789.msg103157#msg103157
date=1774279629]
I think there is something terribly wrong with a system whereby
a referee who was subjected to a lot of (edited)after a wretched
performance can spend hours trawling through a video of the
match from all sorts of angles to find something to
retrospectively accuse a player of. It's a poor look and smacks
of vindictiveness.
I hope, but doubt, he spent an equal amount of time reviewing
his errors.
If he was looking to re-referee this game, I wonder what he made
of Azon being held in a head-lock in the same incident and more
particularly Okell's retailiatory kicking out at Davis.
Unfortunately finding out the mechanics of how this charge came
to be has only served to lower my opinion of Busby as a referee
and, now, as a person.
[/quote]
The bold text makes everything else you say not remotely worth
reading.
[/quote]
I didn't embolden any text. If youre going to quote my text,
please don't change it. Perhaps not the best choice of words but
there can be no getting away from the fact that the outpourings
and outrage from the crowd were as a direct result of his
repeated incompetence.
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