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#Post#: 7908--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: TundeP
Date: May 13, 2019, 3:12 am
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Maybe I shouldn't have posted it here, I just felt it was in
line with the four previous posts about Hackett's general style.
What I meant by him being irresponsible is that in such a heated
title race, I don't think it was right pointing the finger at
one particular decision by a referee. I know his general drift
(rightly or wrongly) tends towards blaming and/or ridiculing
current referees, but saying something like this only gives fuel
to those nutjobs who think appointing a Manchester ref to that
game was part of a conspiracy. Some of the reactions to his
tweet bears this out.
#Post#: 7914--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: May 13, 2019, 5:41 am
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--- Quote from: TundeP link ---
>
> In my opinion Keith Hackett is beginning to overstep to point
of just spouting rubbish. Here's something he tweeted today
where he makes out that a decision from Anthony Taylor
effectively decided the tile race:
>
> "The turning point in the Premier League title was decided in
the Man City v Liverpool game. 31st minute when Kompany went in
from distance with two feet off the ground on Mo Salah. Anthony
Taylor failed to red card the offence! City won 2-1"
>
> Isn't it deeply irresponsible to write something like this?
>
--- End Quote ---
Interestingly, I was reading over the weekend that that game was
part of the offline VAR trials this season and apparently the
VAR in question on the day felt that, whilst there was a strong
cae for a red card, it was not a clear and obvious yellow to
decide that it was only a yellow so they would not have
intervened - of course, another VAR might have had a different
opinion!
#Post#: 7920--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: Boz
Date: May 13, 2019, 11:09 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
>
> [quote author=TundeP link=topic=771.msg7902#msg7902
date=1557730959]
> In my opinion Keith Hackett is beginning to overstep to point
of just spouting rubbish. Here's something he tweeted today
where he makes out that a decision from Anthony Taylor
effectively decided the tile race:
>
> "The turning point in the Premier League title was decided in
the Man City v Liverpool game. 31st minute when Kompany went in
from distance with two feet off the ground on Mo Salah. Anthony
Taylor failed to red card the offence! City won 2-1"
>
> Isn't it deeply irresponsible to write something like this?
>
--- End Quote ---
Interestingly, I was reading over the weekend that that game was
part of the offline VAR trials this season and apparently the
VAR in question on the day felt that, whilst there was a strong
cae for a red card, it was not a clear and obvious yellow to
decide that it was only a yellow so they would not have
intervened - of course, another VAR might have had a different
opinion!
[/quote]
Given Mr Hackett in his prime arguably ruined an FA Cup
semi-final with a harsh sending-off, would expect he more than
most would empathise with Mr Taylor erring on the side of
caution and showing a YC to Kompany. As I said at the time,it
could easily have been red, but don't accept that decision alone
decided the title, though it did come at a pivotal time.
It would be interesting to see a full list of the decisions
which the offline VAR trials felt should have attracted
intervention.
Back on topic, the red card for Watford's Holebas, shown by Mr
Kavanagh seemingly prompted by the Ar has been overturned.
#Post#: 7926--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: May 13, 2019, 1:08 pm
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I'm actually glad for Holebas who can now play in the FA Cup
Final on Saturday. However it would be interesting to know on
what grounds the red card was rescinded. The foul he committed
was innocuous but outside the area on a player who was 1 on 1 on
goal, and the red card was certainly less puzzling than Andy
Woolmer's at Sunderland.
#Post#: 7931--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: voice
Date: May 13, 2019, 1:47 pm
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Have to say in my view having watched it several times I am not
convinced he was still in control of the ball at the time of
'contact'
#Post#: 7932--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: TVOS
Date: May 13, 2019, 1:48 pm
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
>
> I'm actually glad for Holebas who can now play in the FA Cup
Final on Saturday. However it would be interesting to know on
what grounds the red card was rescinded. The foul he committed
was innocuous but outside the area on a player who was 1 on 1 on
goal, and the red card was certainly less puzzling than Andy
Woolmer's at Sunderland.
>
--- End Quote ---
It’s debatable whether it was a foul in the first place.
#Post#: 7949--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: flipmode
Date: May 13, 2019, 9:55 pm
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Call me cynical, I don't know, but maybe Liverpool didn't win
the League because they won two games fewer and drew 5 games
more than City did??
EDIT: Back on topic. Chris Kavanagh. ;D
#Post#: 7998--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: Matt
Date: May 14, 2019, 3:17 pm
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--- Quote from: flipmode link ---
>
> Call me cynical, I don't know, but maybe Liverpool didn't win
the League because they won two games fewer and drew 5 games
more than City did??
>
> EDIT: Back on topic. Chris Kavanagh. ;D
>
--- End Quote ---
but they lost less games than Man City 😉
#Post#: 8024--------------------------------------------------
Re: Chris Kavanagh - Everton v Burnley
DIR By: Microscopist
Date: May 15, 2019, 4:48 pm
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--- Quote from: Matt link ---
>
> [quote author=flipmode link=topic=771.msg7949#msg7949
date=1557802549]
> Call me cynical, I don't know, but maybe Liverpool didn't win
the League because they won two games fewer and drew 5 games
more than City did??
>
> EDIT: Back on topic. Chris Kavanagh. ;D
>
--- End Quote ---
but they lost less games than Man City 😉
[/quote]
..and, of course, had we had the old system of 2 points for a
win and 1 for a draw Liverpool would have won the league.
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