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       Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: olliebcafc
       Date: February 1, 2026, 9:23 am
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       Villa goal ruled out after Tierney ruled the ball had gone out
       of play. Two doubts here for me, the first being I’m not sure
       you can 100% say the ball is out, although it looks it. And
       secondly surely that can’t be part of the APP, it’s ages before
       the goal is scored.
       Good spot by Robinson to send off Schade for violent conduct in
       the first half
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       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: Comeonref
       Date: February 1, 2026, 9:28 am
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       I totally agree re VAR. No matter what he thinks. There is
       absolutely no way that Tierney can say 100% that it is out of
       play. He does not have the view to make that decision. Another
       error by Mr T I’m afraid
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       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: February 1, 2026, 9:36 am
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       Without a view down the line you can't be sure in that
       situation, it reminds me of a newcastle goal v arsenal a few
       years back
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       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: February 1, 2026, 9:43 am
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       I cannot believe that var would have overturned it without
       proof. Also, frame difference for TV and var may be significant.
       VAR went back a long way in both distance and time. Can they go
       that far back? Did APP end? Not sure it did end.
       Did read that the sent off player didn't get protection earlier
       in the game but are we in that grey area of allowing physicality
       which can backfire? Red card yes. Provocation? Not sure.
       #Post#: 100969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 1, 2026, 10:26 am
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       Just seen the footage of the ball out of play which disallowed
       the Villa goal.
       There is no way on this planet that the VAR can call that as
       ball out from that angle.
       I remember a similar situation which was covered in refs mic’d
       up when Madley and Burt couldn’t determine from the tv footage
       in Newcastle v Arsenal.
       #Post#: 100995--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: NoComment1105
       Date: February 1, 2026, 5:27 pm
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       Having just watched the highlights on MOTD I think that this
       whole situation lacks a "smoking gun angle" (to steal the phrase
       on MLS Instant replay) that tells you for 100% it's out. From
       the angles shown however, I'm confident it was actually out of
       play and that APP had not ended. However, there is no chance VAR
       should be saying it was factually out of play, Robinson
       should've been sent to the monitor at least, but preferably not
       at all without the smoking gun angle
       #Post#: 101008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: February 2, 2026, 10:07 am
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       This is the incident at Newcastle with Attwell in the middle.
  HTML https://youtu.be/tcVjbUsV1pI?si=j9vncRlxqPQcKhJu
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       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: February 2, 2026, 10:28 am
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       Brentford have released this. I wonder if the var had this view,
       i guess we will never know.
  HTML https://x.com/BrentfordFC/status/2018323178469101994?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2018323178469101994%7Ctwgr%5E961017608eb704e0de4ea7af7d93bfffe028a3ce%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.skysports.com%2Ffootball%2Fnews%2F11095%2F13502338%2Ftammy-abrahams-disallowed-equaliser-new-brentford-footage-shows-ball-did-go-out-of-play-against-aston-villa
       If they had it would have been better for transparency to
       release it immy or back up the vars factual evidence ie what
       they saw.
       #Post#: 101026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: ChrisJames_90
       Date: February 2, 2026, 10:41 am
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       I believe that it's from the Brentford social media person who
       was sat with the snappers in front of the Holte End. It's some
       helpful, conclusive footage which shows that the ball *was*
       factually out of play.
       Agree PGMOL could usefully clarify what footage the VAR/AVAR saw
       which led them to reach the conclusion they did; suspect it's
       also a prime contender for Match Officials Mic'd Up (as it would
       be helpful to hear the process) although I am pretty sure the
       incident at OT on the final day didn't make it into the wrap-up
       of the season because the club and PGMOL agreed to handle it
       privately.
       #Post#: 101073--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Villa-Brentford. Tim Robinson (VAR Tierney)
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: February 3, 2026, 5:21 am
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       --- Quote from: olliebcafc link ---
       >
       > Villa goal ruled out after Tierney ruled the ball had gone out
       of play. Two doubts here for me, the first being I’m not sure
       you can 100% say the ball is out, although it looks it. And
       secondly surely that can’t be part of the APP, it’s ages before
       the goal is scored.
       >
       > Good spot by Robinson to send off Schade for violent conduct
       in the first half
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       19 seconds from the ball going out of play to the goal being
       scored - don't think you can really call that "ages".
       I hope that the VAR team had a more conclusive angle available
       to them though, because from the TV angle alone it's just
       guesswork.
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