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#Post#: 7763--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: mac
Date: May 8, 2019, 11:48 am
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It can happen, if you get a good number of people at the right
age coming through together you can get a bumper year. But if
there's a year with not so many young ones then you can get a
gap, then you can get years with comparatively few.
#Post#: 7777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: rustyref
Date: May 8, 2019, 3:11 pm
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Can just come down to geography. Presumably there are only a
certain number of supply league clubs within the Dorset area so
they can't promote more referees than they need otherwise they
won't get enough games. Same for contrib leagues, they only
need a certain number of assistants every Saturday and midweek.
#Post#: 7780--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: dtrv2
Date: May 8, 2019, 4:25 pm
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> Congratulations to all who have been promoted & good luck at
your new levels next season. [emoji122]
>
> Dorset appears to have not fared well in terms of referees for
promotion, wonder why that is?
>
--- End Quote ---
Quite simply a lack of people going for it. I think only 2 went
for L4 this year. Also relatively few L4s on the Wessex
(compared to Hampshire) so quite difficult to get off there. Not
many L6s coming through to L5 that I'm aware of so may not
improve in the near future but lots of young L7s moving to L6
this year so hopefully it'll improve in the next few seasons.
#Post#: 7782--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: bmb
Date: May 8, 2019, 4:53 pm
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--- Quote from: dtrv2 link ---
>
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=767.msg7754#msg7754
date=1557327124]
> Congratulations to all who have been promoted & good luck at
your new levels next season. [emoji122]
>
> Dorset appears to have not fared well in terms of referees for
promotion, wonder why that is?
>
--- End Quote ---
Quite simply a lack of people going for it. I think only 2 went
for L4 this year. Also relatively few L4s on the Wessex
(compared to Hampshire) so quite difficult to get off there. Not
many L6s coming through to L5 that I'm aware of so may not
improve in the near future but lots of young L7s moving to L6
this year so hopefully it'll improve in the next few seasons.
[/quote]
Nice to hear about the L7 - L6, we have some 'youngsters in
training' then so the future should bode well. I'm sure it can't
help where Dorset as a county is split between 2 FA's, some of
the local leagues come under Hants not Dorset, they seem to run
roughly along the old county borders that were changed I guess
40 odd years ago now. Makes Dorset potentially as much as 1/3rd
smaller than it actually is, in terms of what area comes under
Hants instead. Probably fits in more with Rusty Ref comment
above.
#Post#: 7783--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: BlueWhistle
Date: May 8, 2019, 5:07 pm
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--- Quote from: dtrv2 link ---
>
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=767.msg7754#msg7754
date=1557327124]
> Congratulations to all who have been promoted & good luck at
your new levels next season. [emoji122]
>
> Dorset appears to have not fared well in terms of referees for
promotion, wonder why that is?
>
--- End Quote ---
Quite simply a lack of people going for it. I think only 2 went
for L4 this year. Also relatively few L4s on the Wessex
(compared to Hampshire) so quite difficult to get off there. Not
many L6s coming through to L5 that I'm aware of so may not
improve in the near future but lots of young L7s moving to L6
this year so hopefully it'll improve in the next few seasons.
[/quote]
Exactly right DTR. A bit of a lull in Dorset as a result of
slower recruitment over the last 4-5 years. However, this has
picked up in the last 18 months or so and the future looks
bright.
Only one on to the list of new L4's but he'll do very well from
what I've seen. No surprise the second candidate didn't make the
grade again but think there may be a few more names this time
next year.
#Post#: 7801--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: KnockedOffMyPushBike
Date: May 9, 2019, 9:15 am
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--- Quote from: BlueWhistle link ---
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> [quote author=dtrv2 link=topic=767.msg7780#msg7780
date=1557350705]
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=767.msg7754#msg7754
date=1557327124]
> Congratulations to all who have been promoted & good luck at
your new levels next season. [emoji122]
>
> Dorset appears to have not fared well in terms of referees for
promotion, wonder why that is?
>
--- End Quote ---
Quite simply a lack of people going for it. I think only 2 went
for L4 this year. Also relatively few L4s on the Wessex
(compared to Hampshire) so quite difficult to get off there. Not
many L6s coming through to L5 that I'm aware of so may not
improve in the near future but lots of young L7s moving to L6
this year so hopefully it'll improve in the next few seasons.
[/quote]
Exactly right DTR. A bit of a lull in Dorset as a result of
slower recruitment over the last 4-5 years. However, this has
picked up in the last 18 months or so and the future looks
bright.
Only one on to the list of new L4's but he'll do very well from
what I've seen. No surprise the second candidate didn't make the
grade again but think there may be a few more names this time
next year.
[/quote]
I think the bigger issue is the lack of coaching opportunities
within Dorset. Many referees deferred away from one particular
coach who then had to defect across the border because no one
wanted to work with him! Shame really!
Will be interesting to see how many of the Hampshire candidates
promoted onto the Wessex League will be able to retain their
position after 2 seasons, as the county seems to produce many
"Yo-Yo" referees....... Mind you the level fours in the Wessex
area all play the promotion lottery to try and get promoted, so
maybe some of the 'Yo-Yoers" going back to 4 might play that
game... often means the best level 4s don't get promoted mind...
::)
#Post#: 7802--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: bmb
Date: May 9, 2019, 9:44 am
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--- Quote from: KnockedOffMyPushBike link ---
>
> I think the bigger issue is the lack of coaching opportunities
within Dorset. Many referees deferred away from one particular
coach who then had to defect across the border because no one
wanted to work with him! Shame really!
>
> Will be interesting to see how many of the Hampshire
candidates promoted onto the Wessex League will be able to
retain their position after 2 seasons, as the county seems to
produce many "Yo-Yo" referees....... Mind you the level fours in
the Wessex area all play the promotion lottery to try and get
promoted, so maybe some of the 'Yo-Yoers" going back to 4 might
play that game... often means the best level 4s don't get
promoted mind... ::)
>
--- End Quote ---
So Dorset is still a bit of a mess then!
I'm very out of touch with what goes on there now my footballing
involvement has moved about 1300 miles southeast of Dorset! I
enjoy the new life and the new involvement I have now but I do
miss knowing the ins and outs in Dorset & Hants!
#Post#: 7891--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: Mackem ref
Date: May 12, 2019, 2:54 pm
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Are we likely to find out this week who has been promoted to the
EFL now that the National League season has finished?
#Post#: 8064--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: RefGod
Date: May 17, 2019, 1:35 pm
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--- Quote from: Conkernut link ---
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>
> Does anyone have details of removals from L3/L4? Be it for
retirement, demotion or any other reason.
>
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Anyone in possession of demotion list from levels 3 & 4, please
PM.
#Post#: 8067--------------------------------------------------
Re: Promotions
DIR By: Carter
Date: May 17, 2019, 3:26 pm
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--- Quote from: RefGod link ---
>
> [quote author=Conkernut link=topic=767.msg7749#msg7749
date=1557325291]
>
> Does anyone have details of removals from L3/L4? Be it for
retirement, demotion or any other reason.
>
--- End Quote ---
Anyone in possession of demotion list from levels 3 & 4, please
PM.
[/quote]
Demotion lists are never sent out ( probably rightly so)
We only know who has been demoted when we get the lists sent our
for next season, which is not normally until end of June
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