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#Post#: 100587--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: January 22, 2026, 9:48 am
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--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
#Post#: 100588--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: Arbitre anglais
Date: January 22, 2026, 9:54 am
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--- Quote from: arabref link ---
>
> I don’t see the benefit of a countdown for goal kicks/throw
ins. The six second rule was never enforced so by bringing it in
for goalkeepers holding the ball it has improved that massively.
Referees already caution if they feel there is excessive
delaying the restart for throws/goal kicks without too much
disagreement, so I can’t see how it solves anything.
>
--- End Quote ---
Think you’re missing the point. Yes, there’d be some kind of
time limit / countdown, but then the decision would be reversed.
One goal up in cup final and start faffing with a GK - at the
moment that’s just a YC (which actually just interrupts the game
to administer). This would see it change to a corner - simple
but easy to see the incentive not to faff around. Certainly
worth trying.
Reversing decisions is common in other sports and something
worth looking at. Could be good for people waving imaginary
cards or running in to get involved, once the ref has already
given your team the decision.
#Post#: 100589--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: olliebcafc
Date: January 22, 2026, 10:17 am
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--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
> The countdown for throw ins is all well and good, but as
someone said, are they expecting the big centre half to sprint
up to the penalty area everytime they get a throw in........
>
--- End Quote ---
I’m sure he’d get a move on if his team was losing. As for
stopping the clock, delaying the restart is as much about
halting momentum as it is running the clock down. These proposed
count downs for set pieces would be a much better deterrence imo
#Post#: 100591--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 22, 2026, 12:12 pm
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--- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
>
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100586#msg100586
date=1769090991]
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
[/quote]
You just stop your watch. Isn’t particularly difficult. Might
end up hurting your finger in the end, but you’ll just have to
hope they can keep the ball in play!
With the advertisements; that’s realistically going to happen
anyway. I’m surprised they haven’t printed sponsorships in the
centre circle yet……
#Post#: 100592--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: rustyref
Date: January 22, 2026, 12:19 pm
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--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=7645.msg100587#msg100587
date=1769096939]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100586#msg100586
date=1769090991]
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
[/quote]
You just stop your watch. Isn’t particularly difficult. Might
end up hurting your finger in the end, but you’ll just have to
hope they can keep the ball in play!
With the advertisements; that’s realistically going to happen
anyway. I’m surprised they haven’t printed sponsorships in the
centre circle yet……
[/quote]
They'd forget though, or more likely forget to restart it. Even
when I was relatively experienced i often forget to restart the
watch, to the extent that I gave up stopping it unless there was
obviously going to be a very lengthy stoppage.
#Post#: 100593--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 22, 2026, 12:55 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100591#msg100591
date=1769105577]
> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=7645.msg100587#msg100587
date=1769096939]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100586#msg100586
date=1769090991]
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
[/quote]
You just stop your watch. Isn’t particularly difficult. Might
end up hurting your finger in the end, but you’ll just have to
hope they can keep the ball in play!
With the advertisements; that’s realistically going to happen
anyway. I’m surprised they haven’t printed sponsorships in the
centre circle yet……
[/quote]
They'd forget though, or more likely forget to restart it. Even
when I was relatively experienced i often forget to restart the
watch, to the extent that I gave up stopping it unless there was
obviously going to be a very lengthy stoppage.
[/quote]
So the referee has to take accountability and ensure they do it.
After a while, it would become second nature. You can’t not do
something ‘because the referee might forget’
#Post#: 100595--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: rustyref
Date: January 22, 2026, 1:54 pm
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--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7645.msg100592#msg100592
date=1769105989]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100591#msg100591
date=1769105577]
> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=7645.msg100587#msg100587
date=1769096939]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100586#msg100586
date=1769090991]
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
[/quote]
You just stop your watch. Isn’t particularly difficult. Might
end up hurting your finger in the end, but you’ll just have to
hope they can keep the ball in play!
With the advertisements; that’s realistically going to happen
anyway. I’m surprised they haven’t printed sponsorships in the
centre circle yet……
[/quote]
They'd forget though, or more likely forget to restart it. Even
when I was relatively experienced i often forget to restart the
watch, to the extent that I gave up stopping it unless there was
obviously going to be a very lengthy stoppage.
[/quote]
So the referee has to take accountability and ensure they do it.
After a while, it would become second nature. You can’t not do
something ‘because the referee might forget’
[/quote]
Yes, but they will forget and it would cause chaos, referees
since the day dot have stopped their watch and forgotten to
restart it so I don't see how it would ever stop. I don't know
the answer to this but do other sports where play is stopped
when the ball is out of play rely on a referee on his own also
being the timekeeper? Bearing that 90% of games, certainly in
England, have just one match official.
#Post#: 100596--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 22, 2026, 2:18 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100593#msg100593
date=1769108119]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7645.msg100592#msg100592
date=1769105989]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100591#msg100591
date=1769105577]
> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=7645.msg100587#msg100587
date=1769096939]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100586#msg100586
date=1769090991]
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
[/quote]
You just stop your watch. Isn’t particularly difficult. Might
end up hurting your finger in the end, but you’ll just have to
hope they can keep the ball in play!
With the advertisements; that’s realistically going to happen
anyway. I’m surprised they haven’t printed sponsorships in the
centre circle yet……
[/quote]
They'd forget though, or more likely forget to restart it. Even
when I was relatively experienced i often forget to restart the
watch, to the extent that I gave up stopping it unless there was
obviously going to be a very lengthy stoppage.
[/quote]
So the referee has to take accountability and ensure they do it.
After a while, it would become second nature. You can’t not do
something ‘because the referee might forget’
[/quote]
Yes, but they will forget and it would cause chaos, referees
since the day dot have stopped their watch and forgotten to
restart it so I don't see how it would ever stop. I don't know
the answer to this but do other sports where play is stopped
when the ball is out of play rely on a referee on his own also
being the timekeeper? Bearing that 90% of games, certainly in
England, have just one match official.
[/quote]
So we shouldn’t bring a law in that could improve the game
because the referee might forget?
#Post#: 100598--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: rustyref
Date: January 22, 2026, 2:59 pm
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--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7645.msg100595#msg100595
date=1769111693]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100593#msg100593
date=1769108119]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7645.msg100592#msg100592
date=1769105989]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100591#msg100591
date=1769105577]
> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=7645.msg100587#msg100587
date=1769096939]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100586#msg100586
date=1769090991]
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
[/quote]
You just stop your watch. Isn’t particularly difficult. Might
end up hurting your finger in the end, but you’ll just have to
hope they can keep the ball in play!
With the advertisements; that’s realistically going to happen
anyway. I’m surprised they haven’t printed sponsorships in the
centre circle yet……
[/quote]
They'd forget though, or more likely forget to restart it. Even
when I was relatively experienced i often forget to restart the
watch, to the extent that I gave up stopping it unless there was
obviously going to be a very lengthy stoppage.
[/quote]
So the referee has to take accountability and ensure they do it.
After a while, it would become second nature. You can’t not do
something ‘because the referee might forget’
[/quote]
Yes, but they will forget and it would cause chaos, referees
since the day dot have stopped their watch and forgotten to
restart it so I don't see how it would ever stop. I don't know
the answer to this but do other sports where play is stopped
when the ball is out of play rely on a referee on his own also
being the timekeeper? Bearing that 90% of games, certainly in
England, have just one match official.
[/quote]
So we shouldn’t bring a law in that could improve the game
because the referee might forget?
[/quote]
I guess only time would tell. If a referee forgets to restart
their watch now they have a secondary one so it isn't the end of
the world, whereas it would be problematic if the clock was
stopped for stoppages. I suspect referees would end up doing
what many do now and don't stop their watch, and rather
guesstimate stoppages.
I just think referees on their own on Hackney Marshes on a
Sunday morning have enought to deal with without having to
become the independent timekeeper (who isn't independent).
#Post#: 100599--------------------------------------------------
Re: New possible laws - bbc vid
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 22, 2026, 3:03 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100596#msg100596
date=1769113095]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7645.msg100595#msg100595
date=1769111693]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100593#msg100593
date=1769108119]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7645.msg100592#msg100592
date=1769105989]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100591#msg100591
date=1769105577]
> [quote author=Ref Watcher link=topic=7645.msg100587#msg100587
date=1769096939]
> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7645.msg100586#msg100586
date=1769090991]
> I'd really like them to go further in trialing stopping the
clock each time the ball goes out of play. Maybe they'd need to
shorten the length of the match, but would in theory help stop
this time wasting.
>
--- End Quote ---
In principle, I support the idea of stopping the clock whenever
the ball is dead and playing a fixed amount of time. In
practice, however, I have two significant concerns. First, how
would this be implemented at levels below the professional game?
It would require dedicated timekeepers, which is simply not
affordable, and so would almost certainly lead to different Laws
being applied at different levels of the sport, an outcome I
find highly undesirable. Second, once the clock is routinely
stopped, broadcasters would inevitably push to extend these
pauses to accommodate advertising with the result that matches
would last even longer.
[/quote]
You just stop your watch. Isn’t particularly difficult. Might
end up hurting your finger in the end, but you’ll just have to
hope they can keep the ball in play!
With the advertisements; that’s realistically going to happen
anyway. I’m surprised they haven’t printed sponsorships in the
centre circle yet……
[/quote]
They'd forget though, or more likely forget to restart it. Even
when I was relatively experienced i often forget to restart the
watch, to the extent that I gave up stopping it unless there was
obviously going to be a very lengthy stoppage.
[/quote]
So the referee has to take accountability and ensure they do it.
After a while, it would become second nature. You can’t not do
something ‘because the referee might forget’
[/quote]
Yes, but they will forget and it would cause chaos, referees
since the day dot have stopped their watch and forgotten to
restart it so I don't see how it would ever stop. I don't know
the answer to this but do other sports where play is stopped
when the ball is out of play rely on a referee on his own also
being the timekeeper? Bearing that 90% of games, certainly in
England, have just one match official.
[/quote]
So we shouldn’t bring a law in that could improve the game
because the referee might forget?
[/quote]
I just think referees on their own on Hackney Marshes on a
Sunday morning have enought to deal with without having to
become the independent timekeeper (who isn't independent).
[/quote]
It is literally the referees job to be the timekeeper.
Should we not change any laws ever in case referees forget?
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