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#Post#: 100251--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: Claretman
Date: January 17, 2026, 3:52 pm
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--- Quote from: flipmode link ---
>
> Where is the “glancing nature” of Dalot’s challenge
written/interpreted in the Laws of the Game?
>
> I’ve looked on the IFAB website and law 12 for SFP indicates
>
> [quote] Serious foul play
>
> A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent
or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as
serious foul play.
>
> Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the
ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or
both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an
opponent is guilty of serious foul play.
--- End Quote ---
Whilst I agree the second paragraph doesn’t apply, the first
most certainly does. Any challenge where contact is made by the
studs on the opponents knee would, imo, endanger the opponent.
This is taking nothing from Un*ted, they were by far the better
team and deserving of their win
[/quote]
Pgmol guidelines again because ‘ its what the game wants’
#Post#: 100255--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: Failed Ref
Date: January 17, 2026, 4:02 pm
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Excessive force or lack of, is probably the reason why a RC was
not produced. It looks to me like a rake down the knee and the
player wasn't diving in.
I hope Taylor, well into his excellent career doesn't start
going on his own in terms of RCs. I am still disappointed that
he didn't issue red for a player dragging an injured player
across the pitch (Arsenal vs Liverpool). There still seems a
reluctance to send players off because interested parties don't
want it. Mind you, Sheffield United today may differ. Good old
fashioned reds.
#Post#: 100256--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: Microscopist
Date: January 17, 2026, 4:12 pm
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Perhaps the most important duty of a referee is to ensure
safety, of players, officials and spectators and yet in the
space of a week our top two officials have shown that
potentially harmful actions warrant no greater sanctions than
the action of removing one's shirt after scoring a goal. That
should be a concern for the authorities.
#Post#: 100257--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: Claretman
Date: January 17, 2026, 4:18 pm
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--- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
>
> Excessive force or lack of, is probably the reason why a RC
was not produced. It looks to me like a rake down the knee and
the player wasn't diving in.
> I hope Taylor, well into his excellent career doesn't start
going on his own in terms of RCs. I am still disappointed that
he didn't issue red for a player dragging an injured player
across the pitch (Arsenal vs Liverpool). There still seems a
reluctance to send players off because interested parties don't
want it. Mind you, Sheffield United today may differ. Good old
fashioned reds.
>
--- End Quote ---
Knee high challenges are from the 1970s, we should be ridding
the game of them.
Any contact with the knee from studs is endangering a players
safety whether excessive force or not and could be career
ending.
The fact people think it was a rake down the knee says it
all.sfp.
It seems pot luck nowadays as to whether you appear to be using
force or not, you can go in with intent and miss then all is ok.
#Post#: 100262--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 17, 2026, 4:54 pm
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I’m always really wary using pundits as examples when it comes
to refereeing decisions, it so far, I’m yet to see a pundit say
this isn’t a red card.
Whilst I know ex-players aren’t always experts in the laws, if
they’re all saying the same thing (along with ex-referees) you
maybe need to take note.
#Post#: 100320--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: TA_Ref
Date: January 18, 2026, 10:17 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> Not a red for me, and certainly not a clear and obvious error
to go with a caution. It was a glancing blow with very little
force, had it really planted into his leg then I would say red.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think the reactions to this post clearly show that we are
split 50/50 among the forum and there’s nothing wrong with that
as we never have to all agree. But I would then suggest that the
original decision to award a YC was not a clear and obvious
error.
--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> I’m always really wary using pundits as examples when it comes
to refereeing decisions, it so far, I’m yet to see a pundit say
this isn’t a red card.
>
> Whilst I know ex-players aren’t always experts in the laws, if
they’re all saying the same thing (along with ex-referees) you
maybe need to take note.
>
--- End Quote ---
I agree that the pundits have been in unanimous in their opinion
but I have to point out some pundits very little knowledge on
the laws of the game. Micah Richards I think was a culprit when
he said the challenge by Dalot was reckless and then said it
endangered the safety. Well which one is it? Reckless which is a
yellow or endangering the safety which is red? If you’re going
to say it’s a red card, then get your words right when
explaining your thoughts.
#Post#: 100322--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 18, 2026, 10:25 am
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--- Quote from: TA_Ref link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7619.msg100201#msg100201
date=1768656261]
> Not a red for me, and certainly not a clear and obvious error
to go with a caution. It was a glancing blow with very little
force, had it really planted into his leg then I would say red.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think the reactions to this post clearly show that we are
split 50/50 among the forum and there’s nothing wrong with that
as we never have to all agree. But I would then suggest that the
original decision to award a YC was not a clear and obvious
error.
--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> I’m always really wary using pundits as examples when it comes
to refereeing decisions, it so far, I’m yet to see a pundit say
this isn’t a red card.
>
> Whilst I know ex-players aren’t always experts in the laws, if
they’re all saying the same thing (along with ex-referees) you
maybe need to take note.
>
--- End Quote ---
I agree that the pundits have been in unanimous in their opinion
but I have to point out some pundits very little knowledge on
the laws of the game. Micah Richards I think was a culprit when
he said the challenge by Dalot was reckless and then said it
endangered the safety. Well which one is it? Reckless which is a
yellow or endangering the safety which is red? If you’re going
to say it’s a red card, then get your words right when
explaining your thoughts.
[/quote]
Correct, pundits very rarely know the theory or wording of law.
It’s very common that they misuse the word reckless. And as I
said above, it’s pretty rare I’d take too much notice from
pundits. But on occasion like this in which literally every
pundit I have seen discuss the incident has said red, I do think
you have to take note.
#Post#: 100348--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: Leggy
Date: January 18, 2026, 1:05 pm
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--- Quote from: TA_Ref link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7619.msg100201#msg100201
date=1768656261]
> Not a red for me, and certainly not a clear and obvious error
to go with a caution. It was a glancing blow with very little
force, had it really planted into his leg then I would say red.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think the reactions to this post clearly show that we are
split 50/50 among the forum and there’s nothing wrong with that
as we never have to all agree. But I would then suggest that the
original decision to award a YC was not a clear and obvious
error.
--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
>
> I’m always really wary using pundits as examples when it comes
to refereeing decisions, it so far, I’m yet to see a pundit say
this isn’t a red card.
>
> A chaWhilst I know ex-players aren’t always experts in the
laws, if they’re all saying the same thing (along with
ex-referees) you maybe need to take note.
>
--- End Quote ---
I agree that the pundits have been in unanimous in their opinion
but I have to point out some pundits very little knowledge on
the laws of the game. Micah Richards I think was a culprit when
he said the challenge by Dalot was reckless and then said it
endangered the safety. Well which one is it? Reckless which is a
yellow or endangering the safety which is red? If you’re going
to say it’s a red card, then get your words right when
explaining your thoughts.
[/quote]
In footballing terms, the wording was confusing. But a
challenge can be both "reckless" and "endangering the safety of
an opponent" in literal terms.
#Post#: 100407--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: bruntyboy
Date: January 18, 2026, 8:14 pm
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What was strange was that at the end of the match Ait-Nouri did
not get a thrown in decision his way and clearly threw the ball
down. I thought from last week's discussions that that was a
standard YC for dissent - no matter what time of the match it
occurs. Perhaps I misunderstood!
I also see that the mythical beast that is the 5cm tolerance on
offsides has disappeared never to be seen again. If you take a
look at a ruler 5cm is actually quite a big distance. I could
understand it if it was 5mm.
#Post#: 100423--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Utd vs City- Anthony Taylor
DIR By: Claretman
Date: January 19, 2026, 6:21 am
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I see for what its worth Dermot Gallagher says Dalots
‘challenge’ is a red card offence.
He seems to think Var should have sent Taylor to the screen.
Quote from sky sports:
DERMOT SAYS: "I thought it was a red card.
"He's gone in high and with a straight leg. He's hit him with
his studs on the knee. The ball is not there, it's gone, so for
me, it's a red card but for tothers it is not."
He didn't get sent to the monitor.
"He saw what he saw on the field and he didn't think it was with
force or intent.
"That's why he made his decision.
"I've got the hidnsight or multiple replays. When I see it, I
think it is a red card."
Unquote:
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