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Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 14, 2026, 3:12 pm
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> [quote author=Marvin Grapevine
link=topic=7615.msg100113#msg100113 date=1768424292]
> Gyökeres offside for the goal and - going on last night -
interfering with play?! I don’t agree with it but the lack of
consistency with VAR is absolutely shocking.
>
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According to Dale Johnson the VARs have been told to stop
“forensically analysing” certain situations. Whether this goal
would have been ruled out who knows, but it’s definitely the
right outcome. The defender is facing the wrong way for starters
[/quote]
Which situations does he say should and shouldn’t be
forensically analysed?
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Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: olliebcafc
Date: January 14, 2026, 3:41 pm
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--- Quote from: El Referee link ---
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> [quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=7615.msg100114#msg100114
date=1768424679]
> [quote author=Marvin Grapevine
link=topic=7615.msg100113#msg100113 date=1768424292]
> Gyökeres offside for the goal and - going on last night -
interfering with play?! I don’t agree with it but the lack of
consistency with VAR is absolutely shocking.
>
--- End Quote ---
According to Dale Johnson the VARs have been told to stop
“forensically analysing” certain situations. Whether this goal
would have been ruled out who knows, but it’s definitely the
right outcome. The defender is facing the wrong way for starters
[/quote]
Which situations does he say should and shouldn’t be
forensically analysed?
[/quote]
“The PGMO bosses have driven home that it does not advocate for
forensic examination of situations” is what he said. So it was
badly worded on my part, I couldn’t remember his exact quote
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Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: El Referee
Date: January 14, 2026, 3:48 pm
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--- Quote from: olliebcafc link ---
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> [quote author=El Referee link=topic=7615.msg100117#msg100117
date=1768425150]
> [quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=7615.msg100114#msg100114
date=1768424679]
> [quote author=Marvin Grapevine
link=topic=7615.msg100113#msg100113 date=1768424292]
> Gyökeres offside for the goal and - going on last night -
interfering with play?! I don’t agree with it but the lack of
consistency with VAR is absolutely shocking.
>
--- End Quote ---
According to Dale Johnson the VARs have been told to stop
“forensically analysing” certain situations. Whether this goal
would have been ruled out who knows, but it’s definitely the
right outcome. The defender is facing the wrong way for starters
[/quote]
Which situations does he say should and shouldn’t be
forensically analysed?
[/quote]
“The PGMO bosses have driven home that it does not advocate for
forensic examination of situations” is what he said. So it was
badly worded on my part, I couldn’t remember his exact quote
[/quote]
Just found the quote.
Part of me hope this isn’t true and part of it does. On one
hand, they can’t keep changing their mind day by day on whether
they’re going to be forensic or not. But on the other hand, I
really don’t want forensic checking.
#Post#: 100120--------------------------------------------------
Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: TA_Ref
Date: January 14, 2026, 3:49 pm
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Another yellow card for dissent, this time by Neto. Been good to
see the punishment for dissent this evening by Hooper.
#Post#: 100122--------------------------------------------------
Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: Ref25
Date: January 14, 2026, 3:58 pm
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First Arsenal goal is certainly a talking point.
The comparisons with Haaland’s disallowed goal last night can
easily be made - both offside positioned attackers are in direct
physical contact with the nearest defending player as the ball
goes very close to that defender on its way into the goal. The
big difference with Arsenal’s goal is the possibly ‘impacted’
defender is at no time looking at the ball after it is headed
towards goal. Is there anything, therefore, the offside attacker
does that impacts the defender’s ability to play the ball? I
think you can make a good argument for and against. My feeling
is that it is offside given the physical contact and closeness
of the defender to the ball going into the goal. It also looks
like the defender might have been able throw a leg out towards
the ball on the goal line as a last minute reflex had the
defender not been there. That would be consistent with other
decisions / rationales PGMO have given this season.
This could be an offside decision where the referee’s call
principle applies. A lot of guesswork / assumption on my part,
but:
1. Gyokeres is quite clearly in an offside position and I’d
expect the AR to identify that in real time.
2. A discussion may have then been held between the on field
officials who decide there is no offence for whatever reason -
maybe because the Chelsea player is not looking at the ball.
3. As the offence part is a subjective decision, unless the
decision is clearly / obviously wrong then the on field call
stands.
There may have been no discussion on ‘impact’ last night for the
Haaland incident, because it was an incredibly tight positional
judgement and the onfield decision was Haaland was in an onside
position.
I’m not sure how much tonight’s decision has to do with what
Dale Johnson has described as being less forensic. We still
don’t know why it took so long last night to recommend a OFR.
The bulk of it could have been because of the failure of SAOT.
The decision making on whether Haaland was committing an offence
could have been quite quick. VARs will still no doubt be
‘forensic’ with drawing lines and checking for an offside
position if required.
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Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: gooner
Date: January 14, 2026, 3:59 pm
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hi,
good game all round - for all three teams - all cards and
decisions spot on [emoji106]
regards,
gnr
#Post#: 100124--------------------------------------------------
Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: TA_Ref
Date: January 14, 2026, 4:00 pm
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Faultless by Hooper - one of the best officiating displays of
the season.
Calm, composed, good decision making. Always looked to play the
advantage to keep the game flowing (and he played some excellent
ones too). Cautions were all spot on and I loved the cautions
for dissent. If referees keep doing it, the players will
eventually learn. Bonus point for purple as well.
After the VAR debacle yesterday, it was great to see a referee
performance so free of error and it felt like we could all trust
Hooper in his decision making.
If he carries on officiating like that then Hooper could be
picking up some good games for the rest of the season.
#Post#: 100127--------------------------------------------------
Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 14, 2026, 4:09 pm
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> Yellow would have been better imho
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It is never ever the better choice!
#Post#: 100128--------------------------------------------------
Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: Claretman
Date: January 14, 2026, 4:22 pm
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> Disagree on his shirt choice. I’m not colour deficient but at
times it blends in with the Arsenal shirts. Yellow would have
been better imho
>
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For those of you watching in black n white the pink ball is just
behind the red but in front of the blue
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Re: Simon Hooper - Chelsea v Arsenal (EFL Cup)
DIR By: Claretman
Date: January 14, 2026, 4:24 pm
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--- Quote from: olliebcafc link ---
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> [quote author=Marvin Grapevine
link=topic=7615.msg100113#msg100113 date=1768424292]
> Gyökeres offside for the goal and - going on last night -
interfering with play?! I don’t agree with it but the lack of
consistency with VAR is absolutely shocking.
>
--- End Quote ---
According to Dale Johnson the VARs have been told to stop
“forensically analysing” certain situations. Whether this goal
would have been ruled out who knows, but it’s definitely the
right outcome. The defender is facing the wrong way for starters
[/quote]
I have seen many a defender block goal bound shots when they
have their backs to the shot
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