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Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: flipmode
Date: April 29, 2019, 7:19 pm
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I'm on my own in the surprised list with this appointment. In no
way does it detract from what has been a steady, consistent
season from Friend, however I feel there's more worthy than him
for this pinnacle appointment this season.
Nevertheless, I wish him well and hope he oversees a City
victory ;)
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: April 30, 2019, 2:28 am
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flipmode, who among those who have not already received the
honour and thereby are the only contenders, would you consider
more worthy?
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: April 30, 2019, 5:02 am
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--- Quote from: reflector link ---
>
> I agree with most of what has been said about Kevin Friend.
He was the most likely to receive the appointment and probably
has the strongest claim which may perhaps not be the most
ringing endorsement.
>
> I just wonder however if refereeing the FA Cup Final is the
honour that it once was. In the days when the Final signalled
the end of the season and the only one in the whole season that
was televised live, it was very much more of an occasion and it
was certainly true that the shops were almost empty on the
Saturday afternoon of the Final, and the roads were strangely
devoid of traffic as nearly everyone was at home watching it on
TV and it was a real occasion for the whole country.
>
> It was also probably the only occasion that the chosen referee
would get to officiate at Wembley apart of course from the
Charity Shield which rarely had the same competitive edge, and
the FA Amateur Cup. Then came the League Cup Final which gave
another opportunity for an official to referee there and now of
course we have the FA Cup semi finals and the the play off
finals as well as the FA trophy etc, not to mention the recent
use of the stadium for premier league matches, so that I suspect
that by the time today's referees get to officiate the Final,
most will already have appeared there, some several times. Of
course, it is still an honour but I suggest not to the same
degree as it was.
>
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I think that because this is a 'once and once only' appointment,
it is still regarded as the ultimate honour for a referee in the
English domestic game, notwithstanding that refs such as Kevin
have already trod the Wembley turf before. If and when a ref is
appointed to a second FA Cup Final, then yes, it will become
just another game, but until then, it is a major honour, a fact
which Kevin has already acknowledged in the media. I wish Kevin
and his team all the very best and hope you have a great day out
at Wembley. [emoji2]
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: April 30, 2019, 10:06 am
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I think that in terms of domestic appointments the FA Cup final
probably has the biggest fanfare associated with it.
I would guess that for referees such as Friend, Probert, maybe
Moss, it will probably go down as the highlight of their
refereeing career.
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: JohnCoyle
Date: April 30, 2019, 1:22 pm
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> If the practice of only receiving the honour once is
maintained ( and I support that ) then the pool of candidates is
going to be pretty restricted.
>
> I agree that there were some fine referees who didn't ever
receive the honour and I would agree with the names of John
Martin and Martin Bodenham and also add the names of Ray Lewis,
John Gow and John Homewood and of course going right back Ernie
Crawford. However, in past years there were some who may be
counted fortunate, of whom I would include Peter Willis and
Keren Barratt so the appointment has, in history, sometimes had
contention about it.
>
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You could argue that there was a bigger pool to choose from in
the days of one National List. Nowadays the FA Cup Final is
effectively restricted to SG1 referees. I shall be very
surprised if any FIFA referees in the future don't get the
honour, unless, like Bobby Madley, they leave the list early.
#Post#: 7438--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: flipmode
Date: April 30, 2019, 6:29 pm
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> flipmode, who among those who have not already received the
honour and thereby are the only contenders, would you consider
more worthy?
>
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Pawson, Kavanagh, Tierney and even Scott for me.
#Post#: 7441--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: May 1, 2019, 3:33 am
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Interesting. When the FA Cup Final is awarded I believe past
performances over a number of seasons are taken into account and
I think Kevin Friend's longevity on SG1 and the fact that he has
been a reliable if unspectacular performer has got him this
appointment. I don't think Scott will ever receive the honour
but I am sure Kananagh and Tierney will in due course and Pawson
most certainly will, probably next year if he continues his
progress.
I wonder if the apointing powers ever considered Mason for the
Final ? Somehow I would doubt it.
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: May 1, 2019, 7:27 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> Interesting. When the FA Cup Final is awarded I believe past
performances over a number of seasons are taken into account and
I think Kevin Friend's longevity on SG1 and the fact that he has
been a reliable if unspectacular performer has got him this
appointment. I don't think Scott will ever receive the honour
but I am sure Kananagh and Tierney will in due course and Pawson
most certainly will, probably next year if he continues his
progress.
>
> I wonder if the apointing powers ever considered Mason for the
Final ? Somehow I would doubt it.
>
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Yes, I think it makes sense to give Friend the final now because
he has had a decent season generally - I would say at least the
equal of Scott, maybe a bit better, and he has been a steady
performer in the SG for 10 years now.
I t hink Pawson's had a good season and am sure he will get it
imminently but he should have plenty of years left so whether
this year or next doesn't really matter.
Tierney and Kavanagh are still in the relatively early stages of
their SG career so I'm not sure it makes sense to rush into
giving them the appointment (and Tierney didn't do very well on
the Man City V Watford game earlier in the season and I don't
think Kavanagh has ever refereed Man City/Man Utd so far) -
better to let them develop for a bit and gain more experience so
that they are refereeing the cup final more at the peak of their
career. Clattenburg said that after doing all the major finals
in 2016 he started to run out of goals to set so there can be a
'risk' in giving officials big appointments too early (not
saying that happened with Clattenburg.)
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup - Finals at Wembley Stadium on Sat 18th
MAY 2019
DIR By: Hendo
Date: May 1, 2019, 7:29 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> Interesting. When the FA Cup Final is awarded I believe past
performances over a number of seasons are taken into account and
I think Kevin Friend's longevity on SG1 and the fact that he has
been a reliable if unspectacular performer has got him this
appointment. I don't think Scott will ever receive the honour
but I am sure Kananagh and Tierney will in due course and Pawson
most certainly will, probably next year if he continues his
progress.
>
> I wonder if the apointing powers ever considered Mason for the
Final ? Somehow I would doubt it.
>
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