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Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Adam
Date: November 23, 2025, 8:11 am
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Holy moly Rob Jones has been in the gym over the international
break! That yellow top is looks like it's about to have a bicep
burst!
Also there's a lot happening with that Leeds goal, I don't think
there was a foul on the Villa keeper.
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: TA_Ref
Date: November 23, 2025, 8:28 am
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> Holy moly Rob Jones has been in the gym over the international
break! That yellow top is looks like it's about to have a bicep
burst!
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Bigger muscles than Macho Man, Stephen Martin? Now there’s a
debate to be had…
I agree, no foul on the keeper for me, he’s got to be stronger.
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Adam
Date: November 23, 2025, 8:52 am
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> [quote author=Adam link=topic=7423.msg97831#msg97831
date=1763907069]
> Holy moly Rob Jones has been in the gym over the international
break! That yellow top is looks like it's about to have a bicep
burst!
>
>
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Bigger muscles than Macho Man, Stephen Martin? Now there’s a
debate to be had…
I agree, no foul on the keeper for me, he’s got to be stronger.
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Mrs Adam has never been so invested in a football game before!
Personally I think he's done really well so far, he's kept a lid
on things and been relatively consistent. Streets ahead of the
wishy washy Jones we've seen in games like this before.
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: olliebcafc
Date: November 23, 2025, 9:14 am
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Not watching, but just seen the goal. Agree no foul on the
keeper, but is the goal scorer not offside?
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: November 23, 2025, 9:38 am
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Jones certainly has baulked up, not that really he needed too!
He most definitely has a more imposing posture!
He’s been very good this afternoon, I don’t think he’s got
anything wrong all afternoon.
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: November 23, 2025, 9:42 am
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Clear handball to disallow the Leeds equaliser, although the
announcement was very quiet.
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Joecphillips
Date: November 23, 2025, 9:42 am
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Would have been pretty impossible for either official to see
that, exactly what var is there for
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Ref25
Date: November 23, 2025, 11:08 am
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I think the Leeds opening goal is offside and not sure Law has
been interpreted correctly.
From the highlights, Nmecha appears to be in an offside position
at the point of the header from Stach. The PL Match Centre tweet
also appears to confirm this:
The referee’s call of goal was checked and confirmed by VAR –
with Gudmundsson in an onside position in the build-up. The VAR
also checked the decision of no offside offence against Nmecha –
with it deemed that he did not impact Martinez after Stach
played the ball. Contact on Martinez prior to the goal was also
deemed to not be a foul.
The header from Stach is going into the goal and an Aston Villa
defender deliberately kicks the ball to stop it going into the
goal. The ball then bounces off Nmecha and goes in.
Law 11 states:
A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played
or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming
involved in active play by:
• gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with
an opponent when it has:
• rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar,
match official or an opponent
• been deliberately saved by any opponent
…
A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an
opponent who deliberately played* the ball, including by
deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an
advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent.
…
A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball
which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of
the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the
penalty area).
As the ball is going into the goal, I think the clearance from
the Aston Villa defender is a save rather than a deliberate
play. Law is clear that save takes precedence over deliberate
play. So I think Nmecha should be penalised for offside (gaining
an advantage).
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: olliebcafc
Date: November 24, 2025, 6:07 am
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The only logical explanation to allow the Leeds goal is that the
ball was played by Martinez’s hand rather than the Leeds player.
Based off the sky coverage, it was definitely checked but the
lines weren’t shown so I assume that’s what the VAR team settled
on
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Re: Rob Jones: Leeds vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Ref25
Date: November 25, 2025, 7:34 am
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> The only logical explanation to allow the Leeds goal is that
the ball was played by Martinez’s hand rather than the Leeds
player. Based off the sky coverage, it was definitely checked
but the lines weren’t shown so I assume that’s what the VAR team
settled on
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I don’t think that will be the case. There are multiple angles
that clearly show the ball being played by Stach (off his back
rather than a header) and the PL Match Centre tweet says that
Stach played the ball.
Would be interesting to know if the save v deliberate play point
was even discussed.
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