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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid - Istvan Kovac
DIR By: rustyref
Date: November 4, 2025, 4:30 pm
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> [quote author=Jtd508110 link=topic=7381.msg97212#msg97212
date=1762290765]
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think that VAR
would/should intervene in an on field decision given as a free
kick outside of the penalty area? I thought they would only
intervene if a penalty was incorrectly awarded - which it
wasn't.
>
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Referee gives handball and a free kick. Var intervenes as the
offence took place on the line of the penalty area, so the free
kick is upgraded to a penalty kick.
Var advises referee that the offence he penalised was inside the
area, so a penalty should be awarded. The referee feeds back to
var what he saw, which arm it hit and that he saw it as being in
an unatural position. Var advises the referee to visit screen as
the ball was deflected on to the arm of the defender from the
his own leg.
Var advises referee to visit monitor to check his decision as
they think the arm is in a natural decision. Referee visits the
screen and overturns his decision to penalise the defender, if
he hadnt a penalty kick would have been awarded. Therefore the
var and referee actually overturned a penalty kick and not a
free kick.
[/quote]
Spot on, it is one of the quirks where they can inadvertently
get involved with a free kick offence.
For me there's no way on earth this was handball, even by UEFA
standards. Even had it not deflected from his leg I think the
arm that the ball hit was in a perfectly supportable position
for the action he was performing. It really couldn't have been
anywhere else for someone diving in to block a shot.
#Post#: 97223--------------------------------------------------
Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid - Istvan Kovac
DIR By: Jtd508110
Date: November 4, 2025, 4:57 pm
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Thanks for your replies and insight. It is an unusual scenario.
I thought that as the referee had awarded the FK, then VAR
wouldn't intervene and the FK decision would stand. I appreciate
the information!
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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid - Istvan Kovac
DIR By: bmb
Date: November 4, 2025, 5:15 pm
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> Anyone want to discuss handball laws? We haven't had a
discussion on it in a while
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Until I become as knowledgeable as Kyros Vassaras (which is
likely to be never...) I'm not even going there with handballs
and what is or isn't!
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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid - Istvan Kovac
DIR By: bmb
Date: November 4, 2025, 5:18 pm
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--- Quote from: Adam link ---
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> Away from that, his positioning has been somewhat
questionable, getting in the way of 2 RMA and 1 LIV promising
attack.
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First half in particular he struggled with his positioning. It
was like watching the István of old, it has always been his main
weakness. 2nd half he was much better.
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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid - Istvan Kovac
DIR By: Claretman
Date: November 4, 2025, 5:19 pm
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--- Quote from: Jtd508110 link ---
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> Thanks for your replies and insight. It is an unusual
scenario. I thought that as the referee had awarded the FK, then
VAR wouldn't intervene and the FK decision would stand. I
appreciate the information!
>
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Had the offence been adjudged to have take place outside the
penalty area then var would not have been able to intervene.
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Re: Liverpool v Real Madrid - Istvan Kovac
DIR By: flipmode
Date: November 4, 2025, 10:09 pm
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For me I thought all of the KMI's were correct, however the
outcome was achieved.
In a game of heightened emotion for a number of reasons, I
thought for him to come away from the game with comments
relating to only some poor positioning is a testament of how
well he handled the game, and contributed to the ebb and flow of
it.
I really like his explanation style too. It comes across like
he's really affable and trying his best, which I think as
players and fans, is all you can ask for.
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