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       #Post#: 97130--------------------------------------------------
       Clarification of rule
   DIR By: stagforever
       Date: November 3, 2025, 11:40 am
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       In a recent match, the two teams both had a player who needed to
       leave the pitch for 30 seconds having received treatment. The
       'other team' decided to substitute their injured player. There
       were two possible ways to deal with this fairly in my mind.
       Either delay the substitution until after the 30 seconds had
       elapsed, or preferably, allow the substitution but prevent the
       substitute from entering the pitch until the 30 second 'penalty'
       had elapsed. In reality, the referee allowed the substitution to
       take place immediately. That meant that 'we' played for 30
       seconds with 10 players whereas the opponents had 11 players
       throughout. Was that right and if so, why can't the rule be
       changed to make it fairer?
       #Post#: 97131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clarification of rule
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: November 3, 2025, 11:56 am
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       Its no different to where a team substitute a player who has
       received treatment.  The replacement player has always been
       allowed to come on before play restarts even though the injured
       player he was replacing would have needed to be off the pitch
       when play restarted.
       #Post#: 97141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clarification of rule
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: November 3, 2025, 1:30 pm
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       We had a strange situation at Crewe v Donnies last Saturday. A
       Doncaster player went to ground close to the Away Stand and,
       having stopped play, Neil Hair signalled to the player to leave
       the pitch at the touchline in front of the away fans and on the
       opposite side to the Donnies physios. Rather reluctantly the
       player did as he was told and Neil then restarted the game
       without allowing the physios to come on and accompany the player
       to the touchline. As a result, the player was left on his own
       and without any support from the Donnies dugout. He recovered
       pdq which may be what Neil had in mind but I couldn't help but
       feel that Neil was wrong to require the player to leave the
       pitch without any support from the physios..
       #Post#: 97186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clarification of rule
   DIR By: Vissla7
       Date: November 4, 2025, 5:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > We had a strange situation at Crewe v Donnies last Saturday. A
       Doncaster player went to ground close to the Away Stand and,
       having stopped play, Neil Hair signalled to the player to leave
       the pitch at the touchline in front of the away fans and on the
       opposite side to the Donnies physios. Rather reluctantly the
       player did as he was told and Neil then restarted the game
       without allowing the physios to come on and accompany the player
       to the touchline. As a result, the player was left on his own
       and without any support from the Donnies dugout. He recovered
       pdq which may be what Neil had in mind but I couldn't help but
       feel that Neil was wrong to require the player to leave the
       pitch without any support from the physios..
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       PGMO head injury protocol this season is that where there is a
       suspected head injury, play must stop and physio's must
       immediately be signalled.
       Even if the physio's don't enter the FOP, the player must still
       leave for 30 seconds.
       The physio's could have gone across the FOP for quickness during
       the incident or round the pitch afterwards and during the 30
       seconds if there was a concern for welfare.
       It has happened a few times this season whereby players go down
       holding their heads despite no head injury occuring.
       I believe if a referee can be absolute certain this "play
       acting" they can issue a caution too
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