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#Post#: 96696--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 23, 2025, 12:46 pm
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--- Quote from: Leggy link ---
>
> Could they not have simply replayed the "kicks from the
penalty mark" (as it used to be called!) bit?
>
--- End Quote ---
Not that simple at lower levels. What's the chance they could
get the same 22 players, or rather 21, all to be available for
the date they decide to do this? And if they can't it would be
invalid as only the players that complete the match are eligible
to take part in the penalties.
#Post#: 96708--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: MKBobbie
Date: October 23, 2025, 5:42 pm
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Sorry, fat fingers. Didn't mean to dislike the original post
#Post#: 96713--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: nemesis
Date: October 24, 2025, 3:20 am
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On the plus side, there are some who might think at least one
replay is the best option to settle a drawn Cup tie.
#Post#: 96730--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: Lionator27
Date: October 24, 2025, 11:21 am
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I think some of the rhetoric here is a bit harsh. It’s a mess up
of course, it’s a technicality that the officials should’ve
known. But in this case, standing them down and punishing them
isn’t going to help anyone as they’re already going to be
beating themselves up over it. Get them back out there the next
week and support them while sending them a new copy of the LOTG.
#Post#: 96740--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 24, 2025, 6:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Lionator27 link ---
>
> I think some of the rhetoric here is a bit harsh. It’s a mess
up of course, it’s a technicality that the officials should’ve
known. But in this case, standing them down and punishing them
isn’t going to help anyone as they’re already going to be
beating themselves up over it. Get them back out there the next
week and support them while sending them a new copy of the LOTG.
>
--- End Quote ---
The clubs wouldn't agree. The home club have to shell out for
the cost of putting the game on again, paying the match
officials, all of which costs money. The away team have to pay
for travelling again, and all of this is because three match
officials didn't know the laws of the game. I know at one point
there was a suggestion put to the FA than when a game had to be
replayed due to refereeing errors the costs should be recovered
from the match officials, this was rejected but I'd say there is
an argument to say they should forfeit their match fees.
#Post#: 96743--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: nemesis
Date: October 25, 2025, 5:26 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> [quote author=Lionator27 link=topic=7338.msg96730#msg96730
date=1761322914]
> I think some of the rhetoric here is a bit harsh. It’s a mess
up of course, it’s a technicality that the officials should’ve
known. But in this case, standing them down and punishing them
isn’t going to help anyone as they’re already going to be
beating themselves up over it. Get them back out there the next
week and support them while sending them a new copy of the LOTG.
>
--- End Quote ---
The clubs wouldn't agree. The home club have to shell out for
the cost of putting the game on again, paying the match
officials, all of which costs money. The away team have to pay
for travelling again, and all of this is because three match
officials didn't know the laws of the game. I know at one point
there was a suggestion put to the FA than when a game had to be
replayed due to refereeing errors the costs should be recovered
from the match officials, this was rejected but I'd say there is
an argument to say they should forfeit their match fees.
[/quote]
The clubs should not be out of pocket due to this error. The FA
should cover any
losses.
#Post#: 96747--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: gooner
Date: October 25, 2025, 6:09 am
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hi,
perhaps the f.a. should cover both teams replay costs [emoji4]
after all, they could/would fine a club for failing to control
their players - in this instance they've failed to control
theirs [emoji38]
regards,
gnr
#Post#: 96748--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: rustyref
Date: October 25, 2025, 7:04 am
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7338.msg96740#msg96740
date=1761347127]
> [quote author=Lionator27 link=topic=7338.msg96730#msg96730
date=1761322914]
> I think some of the rhetoric here is a bit harsh. It’s a mess
up of course, it’s a technicality that the officials should’ve
known. But in this case, standing them down and punishing them
isn’t going to help anyone as they’re already going to be
beating themselves up over it. Get them back out there the next
week and support them while sending them a new copy of the LOTG.
>
--- End Quote ---
The clubs wouldn't agree. The home club have to shell out for
the cost of putting the game on again, paying the match
officials, all of which costs money. The away team have to pay
for travelling again, and all of this is because three match
officials didn't know the laws of the game. I know at one point
there was a suggestion put to the FA than when a game had to be
replayed due to refereeing errors the costs should be recovered
from the match officials, this was rejected but I'd say there is
an argument to say they should forfeit their match fees.
[/quote]
The clubs should not be out of pocket due to this error. The FA
should cover any
losses.
[/quote]
May be they should, but they certainly don't.
#Post#: 96754--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: Leggy
Date: October 25, 2025, 11:31 am
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7338.msg96740#msg96740
date=1761347127]
> [quote author=Lionator27 link=topic=7338.msg96730#msg96730
date=1761322914]
> I think some of the rhetoric here is a bit harsh. It’s a mess
up of course, it’s a technicality that the officials should’ve
known. But in this case, standing them down and punishing them
isn’t going to help anyone as they’re already going to be
beating themselves up over it. Get them back out there the next
week and support them while sending them a new copy of the LOTG.
>
--- End Quote ---
The clubs wouldn't agree. The home club have to shell out for
the cost of putting the game on again, paying the match
officials, all of which costs money. The away team have to pay
for travelling again, and all of this is because three match
officials didn't know the laws of the game. I know at one point
there was a suggestion put to the FA than when a game had to be
replayed due to refereeing errors the costs should be recovered
from the match officials, this was rejected but I'd say there is
an argument to say they should forfeit their match fees.
[/quote]
The clubs should not be out of pocket due to this error. The FA
should cover any
losses.
[/quote]
The extra game will generate some income - gate money,
programmes, pies, beers, etc..
#Post#: 96795--------------------------------------------------
Re: Referee's shootout error leads to FA Vase replay.
DIR By: Lionator27
Date: October 26, 2025, 2:55 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
>
> [quote author=Lionator27 link=topic=7338.msg96730#msg96730
date=1761322914]
> I think some of the rhetoric here is a bit harsh. It’s a mess
up of course, it’s a technicality that the officials should’ve
known. But in this case, standing them down and punishing them
isn’t going to help anyone as they’re already going to be
beating themselves up over it. Get them back out there the next
week and support them while sending them a new copy of the LOTG.
>
--- End Quote ---
The clubs wouldn't agree. The home club have to shell out for
the cost of putting the game on again, paying the match
officials, all of which costs money. The away team have to pay
for travelling again, and all of this is because three match
officials didn't know the laws of the game. I know at one point
there was a suggestion put to the FA than when a game had to be
replayed due to refereeing errors the costs should be recovered
from the match officials, this was rejected but I'd say there is
an argument to say they should forfeit their match fees.
[/quote]
I agree it is annoying and something that clubs at that level
absolutely don’t need and perhaps the FA could help out. But my
point is that punishing officials is counter productive when
it’s a mistake of this nature.
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