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Re: Final Games
By: John Treleven Date: March 17, 2020, 5:11 am
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Brian Hill
You have 1993 as his last match which was probably his last as
"of Kettering" but he then did a couple more seasons as "of
Market Harborough" and ended his career with the 3-3 draw
between Everton and Chelsea at Goodison Park on 3rd May 1995.
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Re: Final Games
By: John Treleven Date: March 17, 2020, 5:35 am
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The Channel Islands end of season matches - Upton Park (clubs)
and Muratti Vase (islands) have been F.A. appointments since at
least the 1920's.
Even the Muratti semi-final had a "mainland" referee until 1958.
Those appointed often went on to bigger and better things but on
other occasions these have been "farewell" matches,
even if only a few days after their final league or cup match
listed in the earlier posts.
Candidates for these are all Muratti's unless stated
06.05.48 Barrick
22.04.78 Nippard (Upton) (but with F.A. Cup Final two weeks
later)
09.05.78 Bent
04.05.81 Partridge
27.04.85 Bune (Upton) (but with Freight Rover Cup Final five
weeks later)
06.05.85 Burden
13.05.95 B.Hill (Upton)
18.05.03 Wilkes (replay)
06.05.07 Olivier
08.05.10 J.Singh
08.05.11 Crossley
16.05.15 D'Urso
14.05.16 Graham
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Re: Final Games
By: Acme Thunderer Date: March 17, 2020, 10:39 am
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[quote author=John Treleven link=topic=718.msg16711#msg16711
date=1584439881]
Brian Hill
You have 1993 as his last match which was probably his last as
"of Kettering" but he then did a couple more seasons as "of
Market Harborough" and ended his career with the 3-3 draw
between Everton and Chelsea at Goodison Park on 3rd May 1995.
[/quote]
Well spotted John and of course you are right. I have amended
the database accordingly and thank you for pointing this out
[emoji2]
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Re: Final Games
By: John Treleven Date: March 19, 2020, 5:09 am
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Gilbert Pullin in an interview in Aberdeen Evening Express
20.11.1971 states that his last match was Tottenham 2, Blackpool
0 at White Hart Lane played in a blizzard. That must have been
19.01.1963 one of the few matches played in the "big freeze". It
therefore appears he did not resume for the remainder of his
final season.
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Re: Final Games
By: bmb Date: March 19, 2020, 6:11 am
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[quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=718.msg9508#msg9508
date=1564570082]
I will leave Graham Horwood on the database unless / until he
resumes refereeing on the Football League.
[/quote]
He's a assessor/observer now so I doubt he will be back on the
pitch.
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Re: Final Games
By: Acme Thunderer Date: March 20, 2020, 3:59 am
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[quote author=John Treleven link=topic=718.msg16731#msg16731
date=1584612585]
Gilbert Pullin in an interview in Aberdeen Evening Express
20.11.1971 states that his last match was Tottenham 2, Blackpool
0 at White Hart Lane played in a blizzard. That must have been
19.01.1963 one of the few matches played in the "big freeze". It
therefore appears he did not resume for the remainder of his
final season.
[/quote]
Many thanks for this info, John, I'll add Gilbert to the
database. We had some contact with Gilbert's family on the old
RTR and I wish we could transfer it across, he sounded like a
nice man. It is certainly correct that he finished a bit early
in his final season, so Jan 1963 is probably right.
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Re: Final Games
By: John Treleven Date: March 20, 2020, 6:45 am
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He also mentions in the same interview that he sat with Gina
Lollobrigida on his flight to Jersey for the 1960 Muratti and
that he thinks he did not get the F.A. Cup Final as he gave the
wrong response to a freemasons handshake from an F.A. Official
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Re: Final Games
By: Left Field Date: March 20, 2020, 4:56 pm
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[quote author=John Treleven link=topic=718.msg16741#msg16741
date=1584704701]
He also mentions in the same interview that he sat with Gina
Lollobrigida on his flight to Jersey for the 1960 Muratti and
that he thinks he did not get the F.A. Cup Final as he gave the
wrong response to a freemasons handshake from an F.A. Official
[/quote]
Thanks for those recollections re Gilbert Pullin. I'm not sure
that he was ever that close to refereeing an FA Cup Final and
the profile of games I've seen for him is fairly mainstream. Of
course it's always possible that a potentially high-flying
career might come a cropper early on due to someone antagonising
influential people so an apparent journeyman might actually have
deserved better things. it's also possible for for a fairly
unremarkable individual to be pushed forward because they are in
the favour of those with influence. It's also true though that
sometimes individuals use these sorts of claims of unfair
influence or favour without good reason - "the face fits" and
"not what you know but who you know" are maxims which are often
justified but also sometimes used as excuses. Certainly though
one gets the impression that refereeing progress in the more
distant past was often haphazard, capricious and occasionally
not based on merit with Final appointments in particular often
related to lobbying rather than performance. Whatever the
reality there are many fascinating tales that past referees
could tell.
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Re: Final Games
By: bmb Date: March 21, 2020, 10:30 am
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[quote author=Left Field link=topic=718.msg16749#msg16749
date=1584741361]
It's also true though that sometimes individuals use these
sorts of claims of unfair influence or favour without good
reason - "the face fits" and "not what you know but who you
know" are maxims which are often justified but also sometimes
used as excuses.
[/quote]
Amen to that! There is one referee I know who daily spouts off
that he has never made the FIFA list purely because his face
didn't fit for various reasons - I've seen him referee several
times and to put it politely I was a better referee than him and
I was rubbish!! I was a fairly decent lino at county level at
but not a particularly good referee, I never went higher because
frankly I didn't have the talent to do so. I fully acknowledge
it was nothing to do with me being a teenage female in the late
80's at a time when there was very much a 'women should be
pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen not on a football pitch'
attitude in general but whilst I was good enough in youth
football I was decidedly average in adult games, no more, no
less. Shame people aren't always so accepting of their own
limitations!
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Re: Final Games
By: mutn3 Date: March 21, 2020, 1:26 pm
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" Barefoot in the kitchen"
A bit harsh BMB, to assume that much freedom
Tied to the stove perhaps? 😉
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