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#Post#: 6856--------------------------------------------------
Final Games
By: Acme Thunderer Date: April 15, 2019, 8:13 am
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I am minded that we have not had any activity on ISOR for over a
month. I am also minded that 'tis the time of year when - in
days of old - we would be looking to see where refs were
officiating in their final games before retirement. I've had a
go at devising a list of final games. It starts with the period
1946-79, as per Upton's, and covers domestic competitions as
referees. Later internationals (eg Jack Taylor) have not been
included nor non-competitive matches following retirement.
Source - mainly from memory but but other sources, including
ISOR, have also been used. As the list is mainly from memory, it
is open to correction, amendment and addition which I welcome.
Refs who died in service have been omitted. Period from 1980
onwards to follow shortly.
K Aston Man Utd v Leicester (at Wembley), May 1963
C Barrick, Man Utd v Blackpool (at Wembley), Apr 1948
F Bassett Cardiff v QPR, Apr 1973
J Bent Wolves v Aston Villa, May 1978 (lined the FA Cup Final
later the same week)
N Burtenshaw Derby v Everton, Apr 1973
R Capey Blackpool, 1977
J Carr WBA v Liverpool (6th round 2nd replay at Maine Road,
Manchester), Apr 1968
J Clarke Man Utd v Sunderland, May 1968
W Clements Liverpool v Leeds (at Wembley), May 1965
J Clough Nottingham Forest v Luton (at Wembley), May 1959
A Dimond Leeds, 1970
E Garner Chesterfield, 1977
A Holland West Ham v Preston (at Wembley), May 1964
K Howley Tottenham v Arsenal, May 1971
E Jennings Chelsea v Leeds (at Old Trafford), Apr 1970
R Johnson Spurs v Newcastle, Aug 1971
W Johnson, Liverpool v Man City, May 1978
A W Jones York, Apr / May 1977
R Kirkpatrick Bolton v Spurs, May 1979
A Lees Arsenal v Man Utd, Apr 1978
K Markham Watford v Plymouth, Apr 1969
R Matthewson Man Utd v Liverpool (at Wembley), May 1977
G McCabe Man City v Leicester (at Wembley), Apr 1969
D Nippard Ipswich v Arsenal (at Wembley), May 1978
D W Smith Man Utd v Man City, Apr 1974
J Taylor Arsenal v Middlesbrough, May 1977
D Turner Ipswich, March / Apr 1979
#Post#: 6909--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: Whistleblower Date: April 16, 2019, 2:59 am
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Thank you AT, most interesting. In those days, ending one's
career with a Wembley appearance at a Cup Final was not that
uncommon. The FA Cup Final was sometimes seen as a retirement
present.
All the big hitters get suitably big matches. Alex Lees, who I
recall as a good toiler never hitting the heights, did well to
finish with Arsenal v Manchester United. Don't know if there was
much riding on that particular game but it's always a big
fixture.
#Post#: 6917--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: Hendo Date: April 16, 2019, 7:36 am
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Walter Johnsons last game was Liverpool v Man City in May 1978.
I recall him telling me that Liverpool gave him a nice memorial
plaque to mark his retirement, after the game
Gary Aplins last match was Aston Villa v Chelsea in May 1991
#Post#: 6923--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: nemesis Date: April 16, 2019, 4:42 pm
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=718.msg6909#msg6909
date=1555401591]
Thank you AT, most interesting. In those days, ending one's
career with a Wembley appearance at a Cup Final was not that
uncommon. The FA Cup Final was sometimes seen as a retirement
present.
All the big hitters get suitably big matches. Alex Lees, who I
recall as a good toiler never hitting the heights, did well to
finish with Arsenal v Manchester United. Don't know if there was
much riding on that particular game but it's always a big
fixture.
[/quote]
Not especially. Man United were mid-table and Arsenal were one
of the clubs trailling in the wake of Nottingham Forest.
Exactly 7 days after that match, I was at Highbury watching
Ipswich beat West Brom to earn their place in that final,
mentioned twice elsewhere in that list !! Happy days.
#Post#: 6928--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: Whistleblower Date: April 17, 2019, 2:51 am
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m'learned friend, I too was at Highbury that evening. Sadly I
was unable to be at Wembley for the Final against Arsenal at
which,as the list states, Derek Nippard and Jim Bent made their
swansong. I did watch the Final on TV though. Nippard had been a
somewhat surprising choice for the Final but I recall he did
well enough in a match which had an air of friendliness about
it.
And now we return to 1957 and the third tier. Sic transit gloria
mundi; and will gloria ever return or has she left us for a
long, long time ?
#Post#: 6940--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: Acme Thunderer Date: April 17, 2019, 10:34 am
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Thanks for these. I have included Walter in the above list and
will include Gary Aplin in my burgeoning list from 1980 to the
present.
I remember Alex Lees from Arsenal v Man Utd in 1978 because he
apparently failed to send off a player for a clear DOGSO foul
and was in danger of being summoned to the Head's office to
explain himself. As it was his last game, I imagine Alex was not
too concerned. There is a 5 minute YouTube clip of the game,
with the dark haired Alex blowing the final whistle at the end,
however the DOGSO incident is not included. The game was played
on 1st April 1978 which was a few weeks before the end of the
season and quite early to retire. However Easter was v early
that year and, as Alex was a school Head (like his Bridgwater
colleague Peter Walters), he may have decided to call it a day
early to prepare for the summer exam season at his school.
#Post#: 6942--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: Ref Watcher Date: April 17, 2019, 11:33 am
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[quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=718.msg6940#msg6940
date=1555515292]
Thanks for these. I have included Walter in the above list and
will include Gary Aplin in my burgeoning list from 1980 to the
present.
I remember Alex Lees from Arsenal v Man Utd in 1978 because he
apparently failed to send off a player for a clear DOGSO foul
and was in danger of being summoned to the Head's office to
explain himself. As it was his last game, I imagine Alex was not
too concerned. There is a 5 minute YouTube clip of the game,
with the dark haired Alex blowing the final whistle at the end,
however the DOGSO incident is not included. The game was played
on 1st April 1978 which was a few weeks before the end of the
season and quite early to retire. However Easter was v early
that year and, as Alex was a school Head (like his Bridgwater
colleague Peter Walters), he may have decided to call it a day
early to prepare for the summer exam season at his school.
[/quote]
A red card for DOGSO wasn't introduced until later than 1978 -
Willie Young's cynical one on Paul Allen in an FA Cup Final that
caused such consternation was in 1980. If memory serves me
correctly it came in around 1990.
#Post#: 6944--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: nemesis Date: April 17, 2019, 11:42 am
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=718.msg6928#msg6928
date=1555487513]
m'learned friend, I too was at Highbury that evening. Sadly I
was unable to be at Wembley for the Final against Arsenal at
which,as the list states, Derek Nippard and Jim Bent made their
swansong. I did watch the Final on TV though. Nippard had been a
somewhat surprising choice for the Final but I recall he did
well enough in a match which had an air of friendliness about
it.
And now we return to 1957 and the third tier. Sic transit gloria
mundi; and will gloria ever return or has she left us for a
long, long time ?
[/quote]
Nearest we've had to glory of late is the underwhelming London
Glory bitter on sale in the Fanzone !
I think Gloria has indeed done with Ipswich for the foreseeable
(and beyond) future. What will happen is that the bar will be
set lower for what constitutes glory.
Most seem to be commending Marcus Evans for dropping season
ticket prices by around 15%. Anyone who has seen as much League
One football as I have would be aware that a 25% drop to reflect
the much lower standard should be a minimum !
PS My memory places that excellent semi-final as in the
afternoon. The evening was spent celebrating and wondering where
my Final ticket would come from. In the event it came from
Southend United - and was in the Arsenal end !!!
#Post#: 6948--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: Left Field Date: April 17, 2019, 3:03 pm
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[quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=718.msg6856#msg6856
date=1555334017]
I am minded that we have not had any activity on ISOR for over a
month. I am also minded that 'tis the time of year when - in
days of old - we would be looking to see where refs were
officiating in their final games before retirement. I've had a
go at devising a list of final games. It starts with the period
1946-79, as per Upton's, and covers domestic competitions as
referees. Later internationals (eg Jack Taylor) have not been
included nor non-competitive matches following retirement.
Source - mainly from memory but but other sources, including
ISOR, have also been used. As the list is mainly from memory, it
is open to correction, amendment and addition which I welcome.
Refs who died in service have been omitted. Period from 1980
onwards to follow shortly.
K Aston – Man Utd v Leicester (at Wembley), May 1963
C Barrick, Man Utd v Blackpool (at Wembley), Apr 1948
F Bassett – Cardiff v QPR, Apr 1973
J Bent – Wolves v Aston Villa, May 1978 (lined the FA Cup
Final later the same week)
N Burtenshaw – Derby v Everton, Apr 1973
R Capey – Blackpool, 1977
J Carr – WBA v Liverpool (6th round 2nd replay at Maine
Road, Manchester), Apr 1968
J Clarke – Man Utd v Sunderland, May 1968
W Clements – Liverpool v Leeds (at Wembley), May 1965
J Clough – Nottingham Forest v Luton (at Wembley), May
1959
A Dimond – Leeds, 1970
E Garner – Chesterfield, 1977
A Holland – West Ham v Preston (at Wembley), May 1964
K Howley – Tottenham v Arsenal, May 1971
E Jennings – Chelsea v Leeds (at Old Trafford), Apr 1970
R Johnson – Spurs v Newcastle, Aug 1971
W Johnson, Liverpool v Man City, May 1978
A W Jones – York, Apr / May 1977
R Kirkpatrick – Bolton v Spurs, May 1979
A Lees – Arsenal v Man Utd, Apr 1978
K Markham – Watford v Plymouth, Apr 1969
R Matthewson – Man Utd v Liverpool (at Wembley), May 1977
G McCabe – Man City v Leicester (at Wembley), Apr 1969
D Nippard – Ipswich v Arsenal (at Wembley), May 1978
D W Smith – Man Utd v Man City, Apr 1974
J Taylor – Arsenal v Middlesbrough, May 1977
D Turner – Ipswich, March / Apr 1979
[/quote]
Good list and topic AT. Here are a few confirmed updates:
Frank Bassett - Walsall 0 Halifax 1 (1.5.1973) - rerranged
match, Halifax escaped relegation at Rotherham's expense;
Roy Capey - Preston 0 Portsmouth 0 (7.5.1977);
Bill Clements - unclear what was his final match but he refereed
throughout the 1965-1966 season;
Eric Garner - York 1 Reading 1 (7.5.1977);
Ray Johnson - Leeds 3 Leicester 0 (6.11.1971);
Alex Lees - refereed Aston Villa-Chelsea (15.4.1978) two weeks
after the Arsenal game but may have refereed again before the
end of that season.
The match programme also suggests John Homewood refereed the
Wolves-Villa game credited to Jim Bent but the latter may have
been a late replacement. Arthur Jones was scheduled to sign off
at Chesterfield-Brighton on 14.5.1977, the same day that Harold
Hackney took charge of the vital promotion match between Wrexham
and Mansfield.
Vince James's final League game was Walsall v Port Vale
(30.4.1974). Although Eric Jennings's final match was the Cup
Final replay his final League match was somewhat more humble -
Oldham 2 Crewe 1 in Division 4 (21.4.1970). He was given a guard
of honour by the players before the game to mark his departure.
Another final match was the Aston Villa-Reading game on 4.5.1971
refereed by Leo Callaghan. Villa won 2-1 with the help of an own
goal which Reading claimed had resulted from an undetected foul
- as a result of the defeat Reading were relegated to Division 4
for the first time.
#Post#: 6953--------------------------------------------------
Re: Final Games
By: TVOS Date: April 17, 2019, 4:34 pm
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Jim Rushton - Huddersfield v Portsmouth - 5/5/96
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