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       #Post#: 94695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Simon Hooper - Newcastle v Liverpool 
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: August 26, 2025, 5:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
       link=topic=7173.msg94688#msg94688 date=1756234134]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7173.msg94686#msg94686
       date=1756225268]
       > [quote author=Failed Ref link=topic=7173.msg94682#msg94682
       date=1756218105]
       > Mr Hackett was not impressed with the match last night and in
       this case I agree in so far as there were too many injury
       breaks, fouls, stoppages and the ball was not in play long
       enough. "This is frankly an unacceptable stat – it fails to
       deliver value for money to the paying fans. I would recommend
       that the Premier League launch an investigation to determine
       where time was lost. Once they have the facts, they can then
       produce an action plan" Not sure PGMOL can do it on their own.
       > Mr Hackett didn't blame the referee pointing out that he likes
       to let the game flow and so the stoppages cannot be laid at his
       door.
       > It was an awful game for the neutral like me - drama which
       this game had in buckets doesn't make a good football game. As
       Slot said "I'm not sure I saw a football match".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure how it can be said it was an awful match, most neutrals
       I've spoken to and listened to think it was a cracker of a game.
       Hackett is barely qualified to comment on refereeing, he
       certainly has zero qualification to comment on the state of the
       game in general.
       [/quote]
       Hackett is a dinosaur who should keep his trap shut about
       refereeing matters.
       We could easily write a comic strip, in spades, about the
       endless drivel and waffle he comes out with
       [/quote]
       It really doesn't matter how much you like or dislike Keith
       Hackett, he is as netitled as any one of us to have an opinion
       and to express that opinion to whom he wishes.
       [/quote]
       May be, but he is paid to write his opinion on refereeing, not
       the state of the game in general.  Allowing Hackett to write
       about football away from refereeing is akin to asking Boris
       Johnson to write about telling the truth, neither would have any
       qualification.
       #Post#: 94700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Simon Hooper - Newcastle v Liverpool 
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: August 27, 2025, 3:55 am
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=7173.msg94692#msg94692
       date=1756241451]
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
       link=topic=7173.msg94688#msg94688 date=1756234134]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=7173.msg94686#msg94686
       date=1756225268]
       > [quote author=Failed Ref link=topic=7173.msg94682#msg94682
       date=1756218105]
       > Mr Hackett was not impressed with the match last night and in
       this case I agree in so far as there were too many injury
       breaks, fouls, stoppages and the ball was not in play long
       enough. "This is frankly an unacceptable stat – it fails to
       deliver value for money to the paying fans. I would recommend
       that the Premier League launch an investigation to determine
       where time was lost. Once they have the facts, they can then
       produce an action plan" Not sure PGMOL can do it on their own.
       > Mr Hackett didn't blame the referee pointing out that he likes
       to let the game flow and so the stoppages cannot be laid at his
       door.
       > It was an awful game for the neutral like me - drama which
       this game had in buckets doesn't make a good football game. As
       Slot said "I'm not sure I saw a football match".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure how it can be said it was an awful match, most neutrals
       I've spoken to and listened to think it was a cracker of a game.
       Hackett is barely qualified to comment on refereeing, he
       certainly has zero qualification to comment on the state of the
       game in general.
       [/quote]
       Hackett is a dinosaur who should keep his trap shut about
       refereeing matters.
       We could easily write a comic strip, in spades, about the
       endless drivel and waffle he comes out with
       [/quote]
       It really doesn't matter how much you like or dislike Keith
       Hackett, he is as netitled as any one of us to have an opinion
       and to express that opinion to whom he wishes.
       [/quote]
       May be, but he is paid to write his opinion on refereeing, not
       the state of the game in general.  Allowing Hackett to write
       about football away from refereeing is akin to asking Boris
       Johnson to write about telling the truth, neither would have any
       qualification.
       [/quote]
       Strange though  that, on whatever aspect of football Hackett
       expresses his opinion, he always gets a response, in spite of
       many people on here saying that he is not worth a response.
       As to your observation, one is an ex-referee who was involved in
       the game for a long time and one big thing in his favour was
       that he didn't introduce VAR. The other one is a politician
       -----truth and politicians are no longer bedmates ---as can be
       seen every day.
       We suffer both on a daily basis and they both get paid for what
       they are doing.
       Who are the mugs?
       #Post#: 94701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Simon Hooper - Newcastle v Liverpool 
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: August 27, 2025, 4:07 am
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       The Hackett reference I brought up was because it made a very
       good point. Yet people want to criticise him and drift off the
       valid point that he makes. Slating him merely distracts
       attention from serious issues within the game. We have tried to
       speed up the game with the 8 second rule, now we need to find
       other effective ways but that is not going to be easy.
       #Post#: 94702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Simon Hooper - Newcastle v Liverpool 
   DIR By: Scally Bob
       Date: August 27, 2025, 4:12 am
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       I’m not interested in Keith Hackett’s comments, he comes across
       as quite bitter. He had his time and opportunity in refereeing
       and it’s moved on.
       Regarding time-wasting though generally there is something to be
       addressed. As a Liverpool supporter I’m quite used to teams
       deliberately breaking up play by delaying restarts, feigning
       injury and deliberate fouls (often praised by commentators as
       good fouls or one for the team). Poor sides are usually the
       worst for it although teams managed by Messrs. Arteta, Simeone
       and Mourinho despite ability in their squads have consistently
       done it. Now that the eight-second change to Law has come in
       I’ve already detected deliberate slowing down at goal kicks and
       throw ins and I think referees need to be more assertive in
       dealing with it rather than for example giving a goalkeeper
       whose antics start in minute one a yellow after eighty-eight.
       From my experience of Eddie Howe’s team playing against
       Liverpool they employ timewasting tactics frequently and
       Monday’s example reminded me of a few seasons ago at Anfield
       when Nick Pope feigned injury for two minutes at the end of the
       game then Liverpool scored the winner during the time added for
       it.
       #Post#: 94710--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Simon Hooper - Newcastle v Liverpool 
   DIR By: mac
       Date: August 27, 2025, 11:36 am
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       I’m still on the fence a bit with time wasting. Ultimately it’s
       about getting a result and there are several ways to skin a cat.
       If everything was equal then yes. But it’s not, there’s a
       massive disparity between teams’ budgets, ability to attract the
       best players. Maybe Newcastle with their ‘not exactly poor’
       owners isn’t the best example but if you’re a less wealthy prem
       team against multi-billionaire City, Liverpool etc and your best
       chance is to slow goal kicks down after you’ve done the hard bit
       of getting a goal in front, I’ve not got a massive issue with
       it.
       To be honest it’s no more boring than City playing a million
       passes with the ball in play.
       #Post#: 94927--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Simon Hooper - Newcastle v Liverpool 
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: September 2, 2025, 1:29 pm
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       Very good process by Brooks and Meredith on the audio for the
       Gordon red card, quick and correct commentary from both.
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