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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: Whistleblower Date: August 4, 2025, 1:17 pm
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[quote author=JCFC link=topic=7047.msg93798#msg93798
date=1754298962]
How splendid to have Whistleblower's legal opinion - and free of
charge! Perhaps he did not wish to be the recipient of a
negotiable cow. His verdict rather agrees with my own, in my
case based on very little. I take it that if a keeper held his
cap in his hand and reached up to tap the ball into the net, it
would count as an extension of his arm and be treated as
handball.
After posting, I too was reminded of Misleading Cases at the
thought of "When is a cap not a cap?" This was a rare example
of a television series living up to Herbert's written version.
The thought of a benevolent Alastair Simpson as the smiling
arbiter of goalkeeper Roy Dotrice's twinkling legal footwork in
some celestial court still raises a smile.
As the Houghton Weavers sang - they don't write them like that
anymore.
[/quote]
If it becomes widely known that I am giving legal advice free of
charge, I run the risk of being struck off ! [emoji6] However,
I believe I can make a good case for my offering on a pro bono
basis in this instance.
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: bmb Date: August 4, 2025, 3:17 pm
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My lovely IFAB man's response:
Great question as always ❤️
Law does state this. I would say it becomes an outside agent
Consequences of an outside agent:
Interference with play: If an outside agent interferes with
play, the referee must stop play.
Restart: Play is restarted with a dropped ball or a direct free
kick depending on the circumstances.
Goal scored: If a goal is scored and an outside agent interfered
with play, the goal is disallowed if the attacking team was
responsible for the interference.
If a GK scored with the peak for me it’s part of his equipment
so allow the goal
Thinking back hardly any GK wear caps these days. Unlike in the
past. Mind you hardly any wore gloves 🧤
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: JCFC Date: August 6, 2025, 7:23 am
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It was a quick return to Myra Shay, this time for
Tuesday 5th August 2025
FA Cup Extra Preliminary Round replay
Albion Sports 2 v 3 Sheffield
Skander Gadaleta; Daniel McKee, Christopher Moore
Mr Gadaleta had previously only been seen as an assistant. He is
smallish, dark haired and light on his feet. Mr McKee was on the
near touchline, obscured by standing spectators, which at least
spared JCFC and his prejudices exposure to his tattoos. Mr
Moore's kit looked almost as "experienced" as he did.
The main fear was, of course, the possibility of extra time and
problems with public transport. It was encouraging, then, when a
short pass split the Albion defence on 9 minutes allowing
Sheffield to take the lead. This lasted a mere four minutes
before loss of control in the Sheffield defence saw the ball
fall to Nathan Cartman, who lobbed it over the stranded keeper
to equalise. Sheffield were looking much the better side, but
first the Albion keeper's foot and then, a minute or two later
the post,p kept them out. Midway through the half Mr Gadaleta
seemed to miss a handball by a Sheffield attacker leading to a
corner, but found an offence by an attacker before any danger
threatened therefrom. There was a push by Albion in the back of
a Sheffield player, who in turn fell into an opponent, the two
going to ground, injured it seemed. The restart was a free-kick
to Albion, not JCFC'S choice, but perhaps Mr Gadaleta should be
credited with having spotted something JCFC had missed. There
was a yellow card for a reckless challenge by the Sheffield
number 5. Just before the break Sheffield took the lead and as
JCFC consulted his watch he heard a blast of the more alert Mr
Gadaleta's whistle. There were angry exchanges between player
and when these had been resolved, Mr Gadaleta issued a yellow
card to the less-than-pleasant Sheffield number 9.
A goal just two minutes into the second half gave the visitors a
two goal lead, further raising hopes of a comfortable stroll
down to the bus stop - a state which lasted just two minutes,
before Albion scored from the spot to make it 2-3. Things became
rather untidy around the hour mark, Albion picking up two
yellows in two minutes, the second leading to a red.
Surprisingly, Albion thereafter looked the more threatening, but
Sheffield clung on to their lead. The walk to the bus stop was
going to be a doddle ... B,but in the fifth minute of added time
- Calamity. A long ball found an Albion forward running into the
penalty area, where he went down under a challenge. JCFC'S play
on decision was perhaps influenced by the thought of extra time.
Mr Gadaleta, having been caught unusually, it must be said,
behind play, whistled and from nigh on 40 yards blew for a
penalty. The Sheffield captain, who had already shown himself to
be stronger on his rights than his responsibilities charged
towards the referee like a maniac, in a manner that should have
earned him a red card. Fortunately he was intercepted and held
back by Albion players, but this only had the effect of creating
a melee, or rather several skirmishes in various parts of the
penalty area. Matters finally calmed down and it looked as if
the kick was about to be taken. But no! Mr Gadaleta was not in
his orthodox position but on the right edge, wisely facing the
players, where he was joined by Mr Moore. After consultation,
the Sheffield number 15 was summoned to be shown a red card. The
kick was finally taken and, Hallelujah, SAVED. Play continued
for a few seconds more before the final whistle was blown. That
was not to be the end of the entertainment. Mr Gadaleta was
joined by AR2 and several players, during which another red card
was shown,to a Sheffield man it seemed. Meanwhile Mr McKee was
doing his best to quell a further incident, largely hidden from
view, involving large numbers of players, including the
previously dismissed Sheffield number 15 trying to return to the
fray. Eventually Sheffield players went indoors and Mr McKee was
able to join his colleagues, repeatedly pointing in the
direction of Albion individuals, still on the pitch. Two
different gentlemen came to pay their respects (or otherwise?)
All this had taken time and at this stage JCFC had to leave them
to it.
A smartly attired and well groomed man had jotted things in a
small notebook during the match. JCFC had assumed he was a scout
(unlikely in retrospect as he was there at the end) but in view
of the attention he paid to the goings on at the end he was
presumably there as mentor or coach to Mr Gadaleta. He will not
have had an easy task to analyse the referee's performance. This
less savvy (by far!) spectator would suggest that in the first
half he did well, covering the ground well, with effective
sprints, though with a slight reservation that players were
being allowed a little too much backchat. As the second half
became more feisty, however, a referee whose acting skills
enabled him to appear calm and in control (even when not) was
needed. Mr Gadaleta seemed a bit too excitable giving off a
rather frenetic air. He did have some good qualities, notably in
discouraging time wasting, but in the end his style was not
quite what this match required. The smart gentleman may disagree
- I hope so.
All this had taken time and JCFC had to make his walk down the
hill even brisker than last week. Even so, on reaching the end
of Butler Street, the bus could be seen approaching. No way
would it be possible to reach the stop in time: it would fly
straight past. But then came the winner of Man of the Match - in
the form of a lady. Unexpectedly she was alighting there, so the
bus stopped, and seeing someone tottering towards it, she
smilingly kept one foot on the step until he was able to board.
Another good connection at the Interchange saw JCFC unlocking
his diuretic door at 22.31.
The ground is singularly badly designed for viewing, so it is
unlikely that JCFC will venture there again anytime soon, isn't
it?
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: Ref Watcher Date: August 6, 2025, 8:50 am
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[quote author=JCFC link=topic=7047.msg93897#msg93897
date=1754483024]
Tuesday 5th August 2025
FA Cup Extra Preliminary Round replay
Albion Sports 2 v 3 Sheffield
Skander Gadaleta; Daniel McKee, Christopher Moore
A smartly attired and well groomed man had jotted things in a
small notebook during the match. JCFC had assumed he was a scout
(unlikely in retrospect as he was there at the end) but in view
of the attention he paid to the goings on at the end he was
presumably there as mentor or coach to Mr Gadaleta. He will not
have had an easy team to analyse the referee's performance. This
less savvy (by far!) spectator would suggest that in the first
half he did well, covering the ground well, with effective
sprints, though with a slight reservation that players were
being allowed a little too much backchat. As the second half
became more feisty, however, a referee whose acting skills
enabled him to appear calm and in control (even when not) was
needed. Mr Gadaleta seemed a bit too excitable giving off a
rather frenetic air. He did have some good qualities, notably in
discouraging time wasting, but in the end his style was not
quite what this match required. The smart gentleman may disagree
- I hope so.
[/quote]
MOAS suggests that the smartly attired, well-groomed man was,
ironically, Mr Wild; Richard of that ilk.
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: JCFC Date: August 6, 2025, 9:50 am
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Thanks for that, Ref Watcher.
I recall seeing Mr Wild referee an Albion game when they were
still at Farsley (September 2014) At that stage every time I saw
them, there appeared to be trouble. Mr Wild handled the match
very well, but sure enough a couple of players eventually lost
the plot. Mr Wild took the necessary action and things settled
down from that point. Albion seemed to have calmed down during
their time at BPA, but last night there were signs of the
leopard's spots showing through, but in the end Sheffield were
equally or more to blame for the unpleasantness.
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: robbie_scouse Date: August 6, 2025, 10:05 am
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[quote author=JCFC link=topic=7047.msg93659#msg93659
date=1753628258]
I had hoped that with the Prima Donna League not having started,
members might have been tempted by the return of competitive
football in England to take in a match at Step 5 or 6 and give
us their impressions. Sadly, it seems not to have been the case
- non-League football is clearly of little interest here.
Nevertheless ..
[/quote]
As chairman of Crowle Colts FC, I shall be taking considerable
interest in this topic this season!
Alas, I am often too busy on matchdays (particularly home games)
to be able to offer a comprehensive review of the match
officials, as you do so impressively.
The three referees we have had so far, two of which I believe
are newly promoted, have been absolutely fine - and very
amenable as well!
Keep up the good work and, if you fancy travelling further
afield, you are more than welcome to make a visit to Windsor
Park - where I can assure you that you will be well looked
after!
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: JCFC Date: August 7, 2025, 3:54 pm
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When the name of your club appeared on the NCEFL website, I
confess that I hadn't a clue where Crowle was. I looked it up
and checked transport links. It seems that it would not be
possible to catch a train back to Doncaster until 19.00, so a
trip there seems sadly highly unlikely. I shall look out for
chance to see them away from home.
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: JCFC Date: August 8, 2025, 3:53 am
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[quote author=JCFC link=topic=7047.msg93897#msg93897
date=1754483024]
It was a quick return to Myra Shay, this time for
Tuesday 5th August 2025
FA Cup Extra Preliminary Round replay
Albion Sports 2 v 3 Sheffield
Skander Gadaleta; Daniel McKee, Christopher Moore
The ground is singularly badly designed for viewing, so it is
unlikely that JCFC will venture there again anytime soon, isn't
it?
[/quote]
It is doubtful whether anyone would have been fooled by that
last remark as the next evening there was a return for
Wednesday 6th August 2025
NCEFL Division 1
Route One Rovers 4 v 1 Maltby Main
George Rampling; James Ferguson, Peter Binks.
Late-running buses meant a forty minute wait at Bradford
Interchange, so the ground was not reached until just ten
minutes before kick-off, but that was not a problem. Programmes
were still available, but JCFC had learnt from last time and did
not buy one.
The match would not have offered much temptation to attend,
given the unsuitability of the ground, but the appointment of a
Suffolk-registered referee swayed the day. The assumption in
such cases is that he is likely to be a student and Google
suggested that Mr Rampling was young. He was, but had quite a
mature look. Sad to say, he failed his first test as it was
already three minutes after the scheduled kick-off time when he
led the teams onto the pitch. There was a further delay as Mr
Binks was busy trying to sort out a drooping net. (Should this
not have been spotted earlier?) Mr Rampling came to inspect but
sensibly returned to the centre and conducted the toss without
him. Play got under way seven minutes late, making it unlikely
that JCFC would make it to the bus stop on time.
Rovers made a lively start, hitting the crossbar in the second
minute and skimming the top of it on 7 minutes. They took the
lead five minutes later following a slick passing move. Play
thereafter was fairly routine though there was a save by the
Rovers keeper just after the half hour. Mr Rampling had a long
conversation with the Maltby captain. On 41 minutes a challenge
saw a Maltby player on the floor, a yellow card being shown to
one of a trio of standing Rovers players and the free-kick going
to Rovers, a sequence that seemed odd, but nobody disagreed, so
it must have been correct. Rovers again came close, hitting the
metalwork for a third time, this shot hitting the foot of the
post.
As the players left the field.for half-time, there was a
confrontation between two players, very quickly resolved by a
Maltby coach, who dragged his man away. The gentleman in the
motorised wheelchair was first to the referee; let's give him
the benefit of the doubt and assume that he was acting as escort
and bodyguard rather than as moaner in chief. Once again, time
was lost - a further three minutes - so the last hope of
catching the 21.55 bus vanished.
With Rovers on top, much of the play was in the area obscured by
standing supporters. Rovers doubled their lead on 51 minutes.
During the first half there had been token efforts to discourage
people from encroaching on the hatched area, but now the locals
decided that if they stood in front of the "no standing" sign,
it became invisible and therefore did not apply. A row of eleven
backsides blocked the view of the near third of the pitch, so
JCFC was obliged to move to the back of the stand and do just
that for the remainder of the match. The blame ultimately lies
not with the supporters, but with the idiots who created such a
ridiculous facility, good for players at all levels, no doubt,
but unsuitable for spectators, whether seated or standing. There
was a yellow card for the Maltby number 2 on 75 minutes. Rovers'
third came four minutes later, the ball entering an empty net
with the goalkeeper nowhere in sight. On 83 minutes the home
keeper parried a Maltby shot, the rebound being fired into the
net from the corner of the box. There was another unusual
incident four minutes later: a free-kick for Maltby was followed
by a yellow - for a Maltby player, who was already marching off
before Mr Rampling checked his card and produced the red. Five
minutes of added time were indicated (twice) with Mr Rampling
pleasing holding his fingers against his black shirt rather than
waving them indistinctly in the air. At the end of these, Rovers
added their fourth and matters ended without problems.
Mr Rampling has a very bouncy movement style in all gears,
though the match did not necessitate fast sprints. He is quite
vocal, in a polite way, and enforced the "Captain only" protocol
on the rare occasions when it was necessary. Overall, the match
was well-handled and always under control. He does show promise
- a pity that JCFC will remember the poor timekeeping!
The walk back down the hill was taken at a slightly more
leisurely pace, but on reaching the same stop as the previous
evening it was discovered that the shelter was being demolished
and the "Bus Stop" sign had been removed, with no temporary one
nearby. I therefore walked back up the hill (a different one -
this is Bradford, after all) to the stop before, only to find
that the same situation applied there. Had the route been
diverted overnight? To be on the safe side, I walked back down
to the junction. I then figured that walking down Harris Street
would bring me to Leeds Road. It did and after negotiating the
busy junction there, I was left with a simple walk through the
site of the old Bradford Exchange station, arriving in plenty of
time for the 22.35 bus. Handy to know for future visits - but
these will be a last resort, and this time I mean it!
As an irrelevant aside, why is it that the "Exchange" name been
the kiss of death for stations? I recall that Manchester
Exchange (now a car park) shared with nearby Victoria what was
said to be the longest platform in Britain - a claim also made
at one time for a station in Pontypridd, but in that case it was
the longest island platform
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: JCFC Date: August 9, 2025, 5:17 am
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It was an easy journey on a pleasant Summer evening to
Friday 8th August 2025
NCEFL Premier Division
Golcar United v Sheffield
Matthew Rose (S&H FA); Matthew Brook, Mervyn Collins.
One has to admire the way in which a small club has steadily
improved its facilities in the years since joining the league.
Being an abstemious soul, JCFC did not visit the recently
installed bright bar area, settling instead for cheeseburger and
chips, not the best of choices this time, but it kept hunger
away.
Mr Rose, though far from old, even in refereeing terms, has been
an established figure in this League for some time. He has a
serious beard, though with a short back and sides there was a
return of the Jan Suchecki style "cowpat" look. His short
sleeves were not quite long enough to conceal completely the
tattoo on his left upper arm. Still, he seemed an amicable soul,
with many smiles and laughs.
Golcar, having lost the two brothers who managed the team at the
end of last season, have not begun the new season well, having
suffered defeats in their two League games and exited the Cup.
This may be explained by the number of very youthful-looking
players in their line-up. Sheffield made the better start,
firing an early shot straight at the keeper, who could not hold
it, but recovered in time. Their next attack was unceremoniously
stopped by a Golcar defender who received a yellow card. Golcar
gradually settled, with a quick break from their own penalty
area producing a save by the Sheffield goalie. On 17 minutes a
penalty for handball - the sort that would never have been given
some years ago, but is now the accepted norm - was awarded to
Sheffield, but after a few seconds Mr Rose went for a word with
Mr Brook, returning to change the decision to a free-kick for
Golcar. Play flowed rapidly from end to end, meaning that it was
never dull, but shots were mostly either way off target or
straight at the keeper for a comfortable catch. Sheffield did
come close, the keeper's outstretched foot diverting the ball
and allowing a defender to clear as it headed goalwards, and
towards the end of the half they saw a shot rebound off the post
for Golcar to clear to safety.
At the break a Sheffield manager engaged Mr Rose in
conversation, with much shaking of the referee's head, but it
seemed pretty amicable. Mr Rose had certainly had a good half,
controlling the match serenely with no difficulty. During the
break, however, Martin Lewis came past, suggesting that there
might be an early finish. Two of the six sets of lights had
failed to come on - the one on halfway by the stand and the one
in the corner on the same side. Though it was apparent that it
would not be possible to complete the match, it was still quite
bright and an abandonment would be difficult to sell at this
point.
The game then restarted, following a similar pattern as one
large corner of the pitch became increasingly gloomy. On
three-quarters time Mr Rose consulted the two managers. It would
have been perfectly reasonable and eminently sensible, for the
match to be called off at that point, but instead play resumed.
An opportunity missed! The folly of this became apparent just
three minutes later, when Sheffield took the lead amongst the
darkness at the far end. The visitors naturally now wished to
see the game through, Golcar equally unsurprisingly begged to
differ. On 76 minutes the home number 4 received an acceptable
yellow for a foot challenge, which might even have been worthy
of a red. On 79 minutes sense prevailed and Mr Rose blew to
abandon the game, though it might have been more politic to
choose a moment when play was in the dark corner. Sheffield
expressed their disappointment and frustration, though Mr Rose
had no alternative and was not going to change his mind. If only
the abandonment had come before the goal, things would have been
so much simpler. Does this count as Golcar's nest result of the
season?
The positive from this was that the usual half hour wait for the
bus was reduced to nine minutes, from a different stop, enabling
JCFC to enjoy the luxury of catching the last Bradford bus from
Huddersfield, thus avoiding the walk through Brighouse. In bed
with a mug of tea and a chocolate digestive by 22.50.
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Re: Pyramid Patrol 2025/26
By: JCFC Date: August 10, 2025, 12:08 pm
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Life is rarely without problems for supporters of JCFC'S
hometown club, and so it proved once again at
Saturday 9th August 2025
Northern Premier League Division 1 East
Brighouse Town 1 v 0 Blyth Town
Abdul Hakimy; Daniel McKee, Skander Gadaleta.
With the assistants for this game being the referee and AR1 of
Tuesday's fraught Cup replay, it was interesting that the
referee was AR2, Mr McKee again being AR1.
The newly promoted visitors were an unknown quantity, but teams
coming up from the Northern League are usually formidable
opponents. It came as a surprise, then, when Brighouse had much
the better of the early stages, even more so when their tall
centre back, Harvey Booth, leaped high to head home a corner and
give Brighouse the lead on 16 minutes. What followed, though,
was almost a repeat of last week. Brighouse's defence was under
constant pressure and though they just about held firm, every
time they won the ball, an aimless long hoof returned it to the
visitors to renew their pressure. Only once did Brighouse
threaten to mount an attack, but the break was foiled by an
off-the-ball collision. It looked accidental to JCFC, but Mr
Hakimy was closer and the home number 9 received a yellow card,
during which players aired their different opinions and possibly
the odd shove, but nothing too excessive. With Brighouse under
the cosh, the final quarter of an hour seemed interminable. From
one of Blyth's umpteen corners they headed back across the goal,
fortunately just wide. Then a Blyth shot was deflected just over
the crossbar. Two minutes later the home goalie set off on
safari out wide, the ball back in the opposite direction,
defenders just managing to prevent a shot until the keeper raced
back and turned the ball from the foot of the opposite post with
an outstretched foot. Yet another corner in stoppage time was
headed by Blyth onto a Brighouse header and thence to another
attacker who managed to head it over the bar. The halftime
whistle was a blessed relief.
Not a lot changed in the third quarter, the difference being
that Blyth now chose to hoof the ball very high, a tactic with
which Brighouse actually dealt with rather better. Perhaps the
difficult state of the pitch may have contributed to what had
become a dire match. Eventually Brighouse discovered that they
could actually play a little football, but when they did, their
number 11 received a yellow card in the Blyth corner obscured by
spectators, whether for word or deed is not known. Blyth soon
had their best chance of the game, but put the shot wide when
clear. On 90 minutes, Brighouse actually managed to hit the bar.
As added time was drawing to an end, the ball went into touch,
where it was collected by a member of the home staff, who was
pushed by the Blyth player keen to take a throw. Players as
always were keen to join the fun, but it was quickly resolved,
Mr Hakimy showing a yellow card to the visiting number 3.
It was good that Mr Gadaleta had a peaceful time after the
tribulations of Tuesday. Mr Hakimy's decisions did not tally
with JCFC'S on a couple of occasions - he probably wasn't
wearing my orange-tinted glasses. It was a slightly less
commanding performance, but, though only of moderate height, he
does possess that great quality of presence and was always well
in control of things.
Given their dominance for much of the match, Blyth certainly
deserved at least a point, but Brighouse were happy to have held
on to all three, which may prove much needed at the end of the
season. On a bright afternoon, the attendance was a miserable
157, but at least the majority of us left the ground less
miserable than is usually the case.
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