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       #Post#: 92749--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: June 2, 2025, 11:08 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > On the 88th minute of the match I said to the friend with whom
       I was watching, I doubt there will be much added on time , if
       any. And so it proved. I remember another friend of mine, ex EFL
       referee saying," extra time can be a hostage to fortune; if both
       clubs want it to finish, then finish ".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Guess what… Hackett has come out firing about Kovacs and his
       performance. Nothing positive whatsoever was mentioned.
       “The referee is the sole timekeeper of the game and you have to
       have two equal 45 minutes minimum.
       “I can’t believe that in a game there isn’t added time. There’s
       got to be stoppages, there’s got to be some time-wasting.
       “It doesn’t matter about the score. It’s incumbent upon the
       referee to ensure that the appropriate amount of time is played.
       So I’m critical of the match referee. He may have come under
       some pressure from the organiser UEFA through television,
       interviews, ceremonial things, and all of that goes, but he has
       to carry out the laws of the game.
       “And the laws of the game say that there’s a process and
       procedure. I can’t believe that there’s no added time in either
       half of a game or at any point in the game.
       “There’s time that the goalkeeper’s taken, there’s time-wasting
       there’s substitutions, there’s goals. On average you’re going to
       allow about 30 seconds and probably a little more with the
       amount of celebrations that take place.
       “So I think they’re out of order. I think the referee’s probably
       come under pressure and he should have resisted it, his
       responsibility is to ensure that the game is 90 minutes plus,
       and that the appropriate time is added on.”
       #Post#: 92751--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: bruntyboy
       Date: June 2, 2025, 1:48 pm
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       Given that football is now beholden to betting companies I have
       seen stories of punters who needed perhaps one more corner or
       one more PSG goal (not unlikely to happen) for their bets to
       come in.
       As has been said above with numerous substitutions, 3 goals in
       the 2nd half (with the majority of the PSG bench running over to
       celebrate each time), the referee warning Donnarumma a few times
       about time wasting plus a couple of stoppages for injuries with
       the physios called on I think a minimum of 5 minutes, if not
       more, would have been expected by most people.
       #Post#: 92752--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: June 2, 2025, 3:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=7043.msg92726#msg92726
       date=1748776321]
       > On the 88th minute of the match I said to the friend with whom
       I was watching, I doubt there will be much added on time , if
       any. And so it proved. I remember another friend of mine, ex EFL
       referee saying," extra time can be a hostage to fortune; if both
       clubs want it to finish, then finish ".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Guess what… Hackett has come out firing about Kovacs and his
       performance. Nothing positive whatsoever was mentioned.
       “The referee is the sole timekeeper of the game and you have to
       have two equal 45 minutes minimum.
       “I can’t believe that in a game there isn’t added time. There’s
       got to be stoppages, there’s got to be some time-wasting.
       “It doesn’t matter about the score. It’s incumbent upon the
       referee to ensure that the appropriate amount of time is played.
       So I’m critical of the match referee. He may have come under
       some pressure from the organiser UEFA through television,
       interviews, ceremonial things, and all of that goes, but he has
       to carry out the laws of the game.
       “And the laws of the game say that there’s a process and
       procedure. I can’t believe that there’s no added time in either
       half of a game or at any point in the game.
       “There’s time that the goalkeeper’s taken, there’s time-wasting
       there’s substitutions, there’s goals. On average you’re going to
       allow about 30 seconds and probably a little more with the
       amount of celebrations that take place.
       “So I think they’re out of order. I think the referee’s probably
       come under pressure and he should have resisted it, his
       responsibility is to ensure that the game is 90 minutes plus,
       and that the appropriate time is added on.”
       [/quote]
       He must have had a few bob on 6-0
       #Post#: 92753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: June 2, 2025, 3:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=7043.msg92726#msg92726
       date=1748776321]
       > On the 88th minute of the match I said to the friend with whom
       I was watching, I doubt there will be much added on time , if
       any. And so it proved. I remember another friend of mine, ex EFL
       referee saying," extra time can be a hostage to fortune; if both
       clubs want it to finish, then finish ".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Guess what… Hackett has come out firing about Kovacs and his
       performance. Nothing positive whatsoever was mentioned.
       “The referee is the sole timekeeper of the game and you have to
       have two equal 45 minutes minimum.
       “I can’t believe that in a game there isn’t added time. There’s
       got to be stoppages, there’s got to be some time-wasting.
       “It doesn’t matter about the score. It’s incumbent upon the
       referee to ensure that the appropriate amount of time is played.
       So I’m critical of the match referee. He may have come under
       some pressure from the organiser UEFA through television,
       interviews, ceremonial things, and all of that goes, but he has
       to carry out the laws of the game.
       “And the laws of the game say that there’s a process and
       procedure. I can’t believe that there’s no added time in either
       half of a game or at any point in the game.
       “There’s time that the goalkeeper’s taken, there’s time-wasting
       there’s substitutions, there’s goals. On average you’re going to
       allow about 30 seconds and probably a little more with the
       amount of celebrations that take place.
       “So I think they’re out of order. I think the referee’s probably
       come under pressure and he should have resisted it, his
       responsibility is to ensure that the game is 90 minutes plus,
       and that the appropriate time is added on.”
       [/quote]
       It is just Hackett being Hackett.  There is absolutely zero
       chance that had he somehow ended up refereeing the Champion's
       League final that he would have added on time at 5-0.  If for no
       other reason than he would have been blowing out of his derriere
       and been desperate for a rest.
       He's a hypocrite, no other word for it.  I'm sure if people had
       the time and inclination they could find one sided cup ties that
       he added next to no injury time onto.
       #Post#: 92754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: TA_Ref
       Date: June 2, 2025, 3:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=7043.msg92726#msg92726
       date=1748776321]
       > On the 88th minute of the match I said to the friend with whom
       I was watching, I doubt there will be much added on time , if
       any. And so it proved. I remember another friend of mine, ex EFL
       referee saying," extra time can be a hostage to fortune; if both
       clubs want it to finish, then finish ".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       “So I think they’re out of order. I think the referee’s probably
       come under pressure and he should have resisted it, his
       responsibility is to ensure that the game is 90 minutes plus,
       and that the appropriate time is added on.”
       [/quote]
       Pressure? What pressure? It’s 5-0 for goodness sake…
       #Post#: 92755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: June 2, 2025, 4:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: TA_Ref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
       link=topic=7043.msg92749#msg92749 date=1748880521]
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=7043.msg92726#msg92726
       date=1748776321]
       > On the 88th minute of the match I said to the friend with whom
       I was watching, I doubt there will be much added on time , if
       any. And so it proved. I remember another friend of mine, ex EFL
       referee saying," extra time can be a hostage to fortune; if both
       clubs want it to finish, then finish ".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       “So I think they’re out of order. I think the referee’s probably
       come under pressure and he should have resisted it, his
       responsibility is to ensure that the game is 90 minutes plus,
       and that the appropriate time is added on.”
       [/quote]
       Pressure? What pressure? It’s 5-0 for goodness sake…
       [/quote]
       He means pressure from the TV broadcasters to not add any time
       so that they can get to the adverts earlier.  And whilst I know
       that they do lean on match officials to work to their schedules,
       there's simply no reason for them to do so here.  There had been
       no significant delays, so the absolute most added time there
       would have been was 4 or 5 minutes which sits well within their
       scheduling windows.
       #Post#: 92756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: arabref
       Date: June 2, 2025, 5:38 pm
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       Does anyone know where they do VAR for UEFA games? I had it in
       my mind it was done in a central hub somewhere but in each of
       the club finals I've seen pictures of all eight officials
       together with their medals, which makes me think it's done
       somewhere at each ground.
       #Post#: 92760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: June 3, 2025, 3:44 am
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       I think he made a mistake by blowing for time when he did.  He
       has invited comment about his timekeeping as a result because we
       all know there were some stoppages.  Had he added just one
       minute, no one would have batted an eyelid.  In fact, outside
       refereeing circles I am not sure anyone has batted an eyelid but
       adding just one minute would have avoided any discussion about
       it.  The old "no surprises" maxim comes to mind.
       #Post#: 92761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: Midlander
       Date: June 3, 2025, 4:05 am
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       --- Quote from: arabref link ---
       >
       > Does anyone know where they do VAR for UEFA games? I had it in
       my mind it was done in a central hub somewhere but in each of
       the club finals I've seen pictures of all eight officials
       together with their medals, which makes me think it's done
       somewhere at each ground.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I believe (and I am happy to be corrected) that they either have
       a dedicated room in the stadium that is set up for the games or
       there is a mobile TV Suite (trailer style) that sets up in close
       proximity to the ground rather than a central hub.
       #Post#: 92764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Istvan Kovacs - PSG v Inter (UCL Final)
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: June 3, 2025, 8:49 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Guess what… Hackett has come out firing about Kovacs and his
       performance. Nothing positive whatsoever was mentioned.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He must be gutted that István was so awesome he had literally
       nothing to whinge about, other than letting the winning team
       celebrate a couple of minutes early and putting the losing team
       out of their on field at least misery.
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