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Re: Sat 26th – Wed 30th APR 2025
By: Ryanellis Date: April 27, 2025, 12:32 pm
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[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6929.msg91262#msg91262
date=1745766405]
[quote author=Boz link=topic=6929.msg91248#msg91248
date=1745763654]
Tranmere Rovers FC v Crewe Alexandra FC
Football League 2
Referee: Parsons, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Ellis, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Bickle, Oliver
Fourth Official: Burgess, Adam
Mr Parsons set the bar low for awarding fouls, with a string of
free-kicks in the opening stages of the game, given for
relatively minor contact. After Rovers had taken the lead midway
through the half and against the balance of play, there were two
other points of note. Dennis booked for blocking off the Crewe
defender, who ended up in the hoardings, it looked a tad harsh
to me. A Crewe equaliser was chalked off for offside, my
impression was that the player making the late run and initial
free-kick might have managed to stay onside as he headed in, but
the player making sure was offside, but looked very tight.
The second half was predominantly going with the home side, but
a weak back-pass left Rovers defender O'Connor heading for goal
and he was taken down from behind by the Crewe no 30 with Mr
Parsons having one of the easiest DOGSO red cards he's likely to
have to produce. Shame, as O'Connor's never scored for Tranmere,
but without the challenge, he'd be in with a fighting chance. In
added time, Mr Parsons produced a second YC to Rovers Hendry.
The first was for dissent after an award of a Crewe goal-kick
where it looked to both me and the player that it had come off a
Crewe player last. The second was for another Crewe free-kick,
where Hendry returned the ball by kicking it high but with
little distance to Crewe. If Mr Parsons adjudged it
time-wasting, it would have been a harsh decision against any
player in my view. The fact that he didn't produce the card
until about ten seconds after he'd blown for the foul and then
twigged that the player was Hendry felt like poor refereeing and
an evening up exercise.
More cards late in the game, as Crewe got a corner and forward
Thiabut pushed keeper McGee into the hoardings to get the ball,
with more force than had been involved in the Dennis incident
during the first half. There was then a scuffle, in which Hall
pulled Davison's top-knot and was sent off, while three others
including Thiabut were shown YCs. I felt there was far more risk
to the opponent by Thiabut's action than Hall's.
Overall, while there was no argument about Mr Parsons' fitness
and I like the way he allowed the ARs to flag infringements,
yesterday he didn't wholly convince in the role.
[/quote]
How Thibaut wasn’t sent off for pushing McGee into the hoardings
is beyond me. That could have ended horribly. Not protecting
player safety at all seems to be a common theme with this
referee..
[/quote]
Not an acceptable answer, but that’s Thibaut all over. More
interested in fights/fouling than playing football. Even when
I’ve seen him play in the u21s!
#Post#: 91287--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 26th – Wed 30th APR 2025
By: Whistleblower Date: April 27, 2025, 3:48 pm
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[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6929.msg91220#msg91220
date=1745687381]
Somehow we’re still in the top 3 with one game to go! I’d have
taken that all day long at 12.30 but it didn’t quite go the way
I expected😅 Ross Joyce as always had a good game at
Doncaster, albeit a couple of soft fouls to the hosts. He
correctly awarded us a penalty after a long consultation with
AR2, possibly about the position of the foul but Joyce looked as
though he was considering awarding it to Donny, but good
teamwork saw them get it right.
The main talking point is Baldwin’s sending off at half time. I
called out Smallwood for his red card the other week but that
was nothing in comparison. Despite a fairly decent season his
Bradford career is undoubtedly over - whether he plays again or
not he’ll never regain the trust of the fans, and no blame can
be attached to the referee who gave him multiple chances to head
to the dressing room before a caution, then a straight red for
OFFINABUS. Our gaffer says the ref had no choice so it can’t
have been nice whatever he said
[/quote]
I saw this on the Football League Highlights show. I can only
concur with what has been written about Baldwin's red card. A
caution for dissent and despite being dragged away the offending
player clearly mouthed some obscenity in the direction of the
referee. In an era where referees seem amenable to accepting all
manner of abuse without much recourse, I heartily applaud Ross
Joyce for his correct and proper action. He has dome grass roots
referees a great service. I have never seen Ross Joyce referee
live but after such a commendable action I look forward to doing
so.
#Post#: 91292--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 26th – Wed 30th APR 2025
By: olliebcafc Date: April 27, 2025, 4:41 pm
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6929.msg91287#msg91287
date=1745786914]
[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6929.msg91220#msg91220
date=1745687381]
Somehow we’re still in the top 3 with one game to go! I’d have
taken that all day long at 12.30 but it didn’t quite go the way
I expected😅 Ross Joyce as always had a good game at
Doncaster, albeit a couple of soft fouls to the hosts. He
correctly awarded us a penalty after a long consultation with
AR2, possibly about the position of the foul but Joyce looked as
though he was considering awarding it to Donny, but good
teamwork saw them get it right.
The main talking point is Baldwin’s sending off at half time. I
called out Smallwood for his red card the other week but that
was nothing in comparison. Despite a fairly decent season his
Bradford career is undoubtedly over - whether he plays again or
not he’ll never regain the trust of the fans, and no blame can
be attached to the referee who gave him multiple chances to head
to the dressing room before a caution, then a straight red for
OFFINABUS. Our gaffer says the ref had no choice so it can’t
have been nice whatever he said
[/quote]
I saw this on the Football League Highlights show. I can only
concur with what has been written about Baldwin's red card. A
caution for dissent and despite being dragged away the offending
player clearly mouthed some obscenity in the direction of the
referee. In an era where referees seem amenable to accepting all
manner of abuse without much recourse, I heartily applaud Ross
Joyce for his correct and proper action. He has dome grass roots
referees a great service. I have never seen Ross Joyce referee
live but after such a commendable action I look forward to doing
so.
[/quote]
Unfortunately I have to agree, I’m still in disbelief how one of
our players can act like that. Even in the unlikely event he
didn’t say anything he put his head towards the referee which is
enough.
He’s a great ref, one of my favourites, not sure which team you
follow but I imagine every L1/L2 ground has seen him before,
been on the list a decade now.
#Post#: 91302--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 26th – Wed 30th APR 2025
By: Whistleblower Date: April 28, 2025, 3:16 am
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[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6929.msg91292#msg91292
date=1745790098]
[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6929.msg91287#msg91287
date=1745786914]
[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6929.msg91220#msg91220
date=1745687381]
Somehow we’re still in the top 3 with one game to go! I’d have
taken that all day long at 12.30 but it didn’t quite go the way
I expected😅 Ross Joyce as always had a good game at
Doncaster, albeit a couple of soft fouls to the hosts. He
correctly awarded us a penalty after a long consultation with
AR2, possibly about the position of the foul but Joyce looked as
though he was considering awarding it to Donny, but good
teamwork saw them get it right.
The main talking point is Baldwin’s sending off at half time. I
called out Smallwood for his red card the other week but that
was nothing in comparison. Despite a fairly decent season his
Bradford career is undoubtedly over - whether he plays again or
not he’ll never regain the trust of the fans, and no blame can
be attached to the referee who gave him multiple chances to head
to the dressing room before a caution, then a straight red for
OFFINABUS. Our gaffer says the ref had no choice so it can’t
have been nice whatever he said
[/quote]
I saw this on the Football League Highlights show. I can only
concur with what has been written about Baldwin's red card. A
caution for dissent and despite being dragged away the offending
player clearly mouthed some obscenity in the direction of the
referee. In an era where referees seem amenable to accepting all
manner of abuse without much recourse, I heartily applaud Ross
Joyce for his correct and proper action. He has dome grass roots
referees a great service. I have never seen Ross Joyce referee
live but after such a commendable action I look forward to doing
so.
[/quote]
Unfortunately I have to agree, I’m still in disbelief how one of
our players can act like that. Even in the unlikely event he
didn’t say anything he put his head towards the referee which is
enough.
He’s a great ref, one of my favourites, not sure which team you
follow but I imagine every L1/L2 ground has seen him before,
been on the list a decade now.
[/quote]
I follow Ipswich Town but rarely get to see them; perhaps more
likely now they are out of the Premiership. However, because of
connections I have there, I go to The Valley a few times each
season but my visits have never coincided with Mr Joyce's. Some
referees I've seen a few times there, Benjamin Speedie, Carl
Brook and Sam Purkiss come to mind, but that is just a case of
random distribution.
I have mentioned in a different thread about Ross Joyce some
while ago that my late mother had a very good friend called
Joyce Ross, so whenever I see Ross Joyce's name I am reminded of
her.
#Post#: 91307--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 26th – Wed 30th APR 2025
By: elbee94 Date: April 28, 2025, 4:41 am
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6929.msg91302#msg91302
date=1745828214]
[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6929.msg91292#msg91292
date=1745790098]
[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6929.msg91287#msg91287
date=1745786914]
[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6929.msg91220#msg91220
date=1745687381]
Somehow we’re still in the top 3 with one game to go! I’d have
taken that all day long at 12.30 but it didn’t quite go the way
I expected😅 Ross Joyce as always had a good game at
Doncaster, albeit a couple of soft fouls to the hosts. He
correctly awarded us a penalty after a long consultation with
AR2, possibly about the position of the foul but Joyce looked as
though he was considering awarding it to Donny, but good
teamwork saw them get it right.
The main talking point is Baldwin’s sending off at half time. I
called out Smallwood for his red card the other week but that
was nothing in comparison. Despite a fairly decent season his
Bradford career is undoubtedly over - whether he plays again or
not he’ll never regain the trust of the fans, and no blame can
be attached to the referee who gave him multiple chances to head
to the dressing room before a caution, then a straight red for
OFFINABUS. Our gaffer says the ref had no choice so it can’t
have been nice whatever he said
[/quote]
I saw this on the Football League Highlights show. I can only
concur with what has been written about Baldwin's red card. A
caution for dissent and despite being dragged away the offending
player clearly mouthed some obscenity in the direction of the
referee. In an era where referees seem amenable to accepting all
manner of abuse without much recourse, I heartily applaud Ross
Joyce for his correct and proper action. He has dome grass roots
referees a great service. I have never seen Ross Joyce referee
live but after such a commendable action I look forward to doing
so.
[/quote]
Unfortunately I have to agree, I’m still in disbelief how one of
our players can act like that. Even in the unlikely event he
didn’t say anything he put his head towards the referee which is
enough.
He’s a great ref, one of my favourites, not sure which team you
follow but I imagine every L1/L2 ground has seen him before,
been on the list a decade now.
[/quote]
I follow Ipswich Town but rarely get to see them; perhaps more
likely now they are out of the Premiership. However, because of
connections I have there, I go to The Valley a few times each
season but my visits have never coincided with Mr Joyce's. Some
referees I've seen a few times there, Benjamin Speedie, Carl
Brook and Sam Purkiss come to mind, but that is just a case of
random distribution.
I have mentioned in a different thread about Ross Joyce some
while ago that my late mother had a very good friend called
Joyce Ross, so whenever I see Ross Joyce's name I am reminded of
her.
[/quote]
Been Southern based definitely seems to mean you see the same
referees more often. Carl Brook and Sam Purkiss usually cover at
least 5 of our home games a season.
#Post#: 91308--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 26th – Wed 30th APR 2025
By: elbee94 Date: April 28, 2025, 4:46 am
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I wasn’t at Salford (thankfully), but Seb Stockbridge, who I
believe has upset Danny Cowley in the past, wasn’t a fan
favourite again. On the TV angle alone, the first penalty for us
looks a really bad decision but I suspect there may have been
more behind the angle. The second one is dubious too.
Seemed to be a lot of poor conduct around this weekend, Ross
Joyce (not a favourite of mine usually) deserves the praise he’s
got for handling the Bradford situation, it’s nice to see fans
and managers criticise the player rather than the official in
that situation. Also agree that how Thibault didn’t get sent off
for Crewe is surprising, a real dangerous act. I did think Ryan
Loft was unfortunate to get sent off for Violent Conduct though
for Cambridge by Will Finnie.
One decision that stood out to me on the highlights was a good
spot by Alex Chilowicz, he seems to have a good eye for serious
foul play tackles. Tom Nield however with a really poor penalty
award at Cheltenham, perhaps obstructed by a poor angle.
Unfortunately/fortunately, it looks like a lot of the regular
posters have nothing to play for on the last weekend. Best of
luck to all those involved in the last day - Colchester are
mathematically still in the hunt but require a lot of help.
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Re: Sat 26th – Wed 30th APR 2025
By: elbee94 Date: April 30, 2025, 8:53 am
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[quote author=elbee94 link=topic=6929.msg91308#msg91308
date=1745833583]
I did think Ryan Loft was unfortunate to get sent off for
Violent Conduct though for Cambridge by Will Finnie.
[/quote]
That suspension has now been overturned - given it was 0-0 at
the time against their relegation rival, that’s potentially a
very costly mistake by the officials. Cambridge have been dire
but they can count themselves unlucky at the most crucial point
there.
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