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       Re: Would ex-pros make better referees?
   DIR By: Failed Ref
       Date: March 28, 2025, 4:39 am
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       Dangerous ground talking to players. You have to be seen
       treating both sides equally. By all means say thank you, but
       that should be about it other than to explain decisions.
       Rugby is a complex game and so refereeing is slightly different.
       Nevertheless, the same principle applies. One team's front row
       may be messing about in the scrum, but the referee will speak to
       both front rows so not to be seen to be coaching or treating one
       side differently. It does surprise me that rugby referees talk
       slightly more these days as the general rule and guidance was to
       keep quiet. If the ball is not out at a ruck, players find out
       by handling the ball and whether then the whistle goes! But
       sometimes help is required because the fans don't want to see
       repeated penalties. Dickson is an example of an ex player doing
       well but initially he was very poor at the highest level.
       Football cannot give the same leeway to up and coming referee.
       Clattenburg came unstuck when he suggested Lalana was not the
       player he once knew. There were so many views on that "friendly"
       interaction which is why regerees should say less. Less is more
       imho.
       #Post#: 90138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would ex-pros make better referees?
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: March 28, 2025, 8:29 am
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       I did find names on shirts useful as you could address people as
       "Mr so and so" or listen out for a nick name - only because
       people will respond quicker to the use of their own names rather
       than "player" or "number 36"
       That said it was more after the fact or doing a telling off on
       the hoof rather than "coaching"
       I did use "good tackle" etc to convey I had seen a tackle and
       was happy to play on (maybe with VAR I would have had to adapt)
       I remember watching George Courtney do a lower league match and
       within 2 minutes he seemed to know all the first names and was
       happy to use them
       Howard Webb was a talker but more in establishing credibility
       (seen it, keep going, nothing there, Tommy don't do owt stupid
       etc)
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