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Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: Sean43211 Date: January 27, 2025, 12:30 am
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Not just you boys down the A19 to have him on another bad, I
thought on another day another referee would give it but hey it
done with now and hopefully he will learn from along with his
closet Linesmen too
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Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: nemesis Date: January 27, 2025, 3:49 am
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[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6639.msg87730#msg87730
date=1737935705]
[quote author=elbee94 link=topic=6639.msg87667#msg87667
date=1737845759]
Colchester United FC (First Team) v Morecambe FC (First Team)
Football League 2
Referee: Purkiss, Sam
Assistant Referee: Carmichael, Marcus
Assistant Referee: Nicholson, David
Fourth Official: Butler, Stuart
In my opinion, a good day’s work for Sam and team this
afternoon. I find Sam an interesting referee - as someone that’s
seen him often, he seems to referee games quite differently
tolerance-wise. Today, he was pretty hot on any misconduct,
which mostly improved the game. He clamped down on timewasting
as well as any ref we’ve had this season, so full marks there,
although perhaps 4 minutes in the second half was a minute or
two light.
Two main incidents to report on, both possible red cards for
Morecambe. The first was a wild tackle by Tutonda, already on a
yellow card for a barrage of abuse to AR2 shortly before,
Tutonda jumped in two footed right under AR2’s nose and whilst
taking all of the ball, took plenty of the man too and I
expected at least a second yellow, but no foul was awarded. The
benefit of the doubt was that he may have slipped, i’d need to
see a replay, but does that exonerate him? I’m not sure.
The red card that was awarded has divided opinion, given to Lee
Angol in the final seconds of the first half. Whilst jumping, he
catches Iandolo with an arm to the face - it’s at least
reckless, but there is a case for it looking intentional too,
only Angol will know. I think it’s more of a red than a yellow
but, using the VAR logic, I think it stays with the on field
call either way. The only thing that surprises me is Sam
appearing to make (backed up by Morecambe’s manager comments)
the decision himself and not consulting AR1, who appeared to see
it better than Sam and said no foul.
[/quote]
Sam Purkiss has never been my favourite referee. He loves a red
card and unfortunately got this one badly wrong (imo). Firstly
he is a long way from the incident, so it makes it hard for him
to sell. Secondly he doesn’t consult his assistant who is right
there with a much better view!! You can make a case for yellow,
but even then that would be harsh. I wonder if a different
player had been involved (someone less of a “nuisance”), would
his decision have been the same
[/quote]
How do you know what was, or wasn't, said over the comms system
?
#Post#: 87744--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: elbee94 Date: January 27, 2025, 4:19 am
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[quote author=nemesis link=topic=6639.msg87742#msg87742
date=1737971393]
[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6639.msg87730#msg87730
date=1737935705]
[quote author=elbee94 link=topic=6639.msg87667#msg87667
date=1737845759]
Colchester United FC (First Team) v Morecambe FC (First Team)
Football League 2
Referee: Purkiss, Sam
Assistant Referee: Carmichael, Marcus
Assistant Referee: Nicholson, David
Fourth Official: Butler, Stuart
In my opinion, a good day’s work for Sam and team this
afternoon. I find Sam an interesting referee - as someone that’s
seen him often, he seems to referee games quite differently
tolerance-wise. Today, he was pretty hot on any misconduct,
which mostly improved the game. He clamped down on timewasting
as well as any ref we’ve had this season, so full marks there,
although perhaps 4 minutes in the second half was a minute or
two light.
Two main incidents to report on, both possible red cards for
Morecambe. The first was a wild tackle by Tutonda, already on a
yellow card for a barrage of abuse to AR2 shortly before,
Tutonda jumped in two footed right under AR2’s nose and whilst
taking all of the ball, took plenty of the man too and I
expected at least a second yellow, but no foul was awarded. The
benefit of the doubt was that he may have slipped, i’d need to
see a replay, but does that exonerate him? I’m not sure.
The red card that was awarded has divided opinion, given to Lee
Angol in the final seconds of the first half. Whilst jumping, he
catches Iandolo with an arm to the face - it’s at least
reckless, but there is a case for it looking intentional too,
only Angol will know. I think it’s more of a red than a yellow
but, using the VAR logic, I think it stays with the on field
call either way. The only thing that surprises me is Sam
appearing to make (backed up by Morecambe’s manager comments)
the decision himself and not consulting AR1, who appeared to see
it better than Sam and said no foul.
[/quote]
Sam Purkiss has never been my favourite referee. He loves a red
card and unfortunately got this one badly wrong (imo). Firstly
he is a long way from the incident, so it makes it hard for him
to sell. Secondly he doesn’t consult his assistant who is right
there with a much better view!! You can make a case for yellow,
but even then that would be harsh. I wonder if a different
player had been involved (someone less of a “nuisance”), would
his decision have been the same
[/quote]
How do you know what was, or wasn't, said over the comms system
?
[/quote]
That’s from the Morecambe manager’s comments, which i’ll take at
face value but you can never be sure. It also seems to be that
AR1 putting his hand out as if to defuse and calm everyone down,
so from body language, i’d say it likely backs this up.
I can see why you’d feel that way Ollie, I see it as a dangerous
swinging arm. I wouldn’t have complained at a yellow but I can
definitely see the red card argument. From a non-officiating
point, it was literally the last action of the half, other than
Sam blowing when the throw was taken, so it’s ridiculous to give
the referee a decision to make.
#Post#: 87755--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: olliebcafc Date: January 27, 2025, 8:07 am
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[quote author=elbee94 link=topic=6639.msg87744#msg87744
date=1737973184]
[quote author=nemesis link=topic=6639.msg87742#msg87742
date=1737971393]
[quote author=olliebcafc link=topic=6639.msg87730#msg87730
date=1737935705]
[quote author=elbee94 link=topic=6639.msg87667#msg87667
date=1737845759]
Colchester United FC (First Team) v Morecambe FC (First Team)
Football League 2
Referee: Purkiss, Sam
Assistant Referee: Carmichael, Marcus
Assistant Referee: Nicholson, David
Fourth Official: Butler, Stuart
In my opinion, a good day’s work for Sam and team this
afternoon. I find Sam an interesting referee - as someone that’s
seen him often, he seems to referee games quite differently
tolerance-wise. Today, he was pretty hot on any misconduct,
which mostly improved the game. He clamped down on timewasting
as well as any ref we’ve had this season, so full marks there,
although perhaps 4 minutes in the second half was a minute or
two light.
Two main incidents to report on, both possible red cards for
Morecambe. The first was a wild tackle by Tutonda, already on a
yellow card for a barrage of abuse to AR2 shortly before,
Tutonda jumped in two footed right under AR2’s nose and whilst
taking all of the ball, took plenty of the man too and I
expected at least a second yellow, but no foul was awarded. The
benefit of the doubt was that he may have slipped, i’d need to
see a replay, but does that exonerate him? I’m not sure.
The red card that was awarded has divided opinion, given to Lee
Angol in the final seconds of the first half. Whilst jumping, he
catches Iandolo with an arm to the face - it’s at least
reckless, but there is a case for it looking intentional too,
only Angol will know. I think it’s more of a red than a yellow
but, using the VAR logic, I think it stays with the on field
call either way. The only thing that surprises me is Sam
appearing to make (backed up by Morecambe’s manager comments)
the decision himself and not consulting AR1, who appeared to see
it better than Sam and said no foul.
[/quote]
Sam Purkiss has never been my favourite referee. He loves a red
card and unfortunately got this one badly wrong (imo). Firstly
he is a long way from the incident, so it makes it hard for him
to sell. Secondly he doesn’t consult his assistant who is right
there with a much better view!! You can make a case for yellow,
but even then that would be harsh. I wonder if a different
player had been involved (someone less of a “nuisance”), would
his decision have been the same
[/quote]
How do you know what was, or wasn't, said over the comms system
?
[/quote]
That’s from the Morecambe manager’s comments, which i’ll take at
face value but you can never be sure. It also seems to be that
AR1 putting his hand out as if to defuse and calm everyone down,
so from body language, i’d say it likely backs this up.
I can see why you’d feel that way Ollie, I see it as a dangerous
swinging arm. I wouldn’t have complained at a yellow but I can
definitely see the red card argument. From a non-officiating
point, it was literally the last action of the half, other than
Sam blowing when the throw was taken, so it’s ridiculous to give
the referee a decision to make.
[/quote]
It’s a loose arm for me. Maybe reckless. But like I said Angol
will have a certain reputation. As for “not knowing what was
said on comms” there’s simply no time for a logical discussion -
Purkiss runs over with his hand in his back pocket straight away
#Post#: 87762--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: Ref Watcher Date: January 27, 2025, 9:33 am
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[quote author=Sean43211 link=topic=6639.msg87735#msg87735
date=1737959400]
Not just you boys down the A19 to have him on another bad, I
thought on another day another referee would give it but hey it
done with now and hopefully he will learn from along with his
closet Linesmen too
[/quote]
A closet linesman? The mind boggles!
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Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: rustyref Date: January 27, 2025, 11:28 am
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[quote author=Sean43211 link=topic=6639.msg87734#msg87734
date=1737959292]
From the referee himself he said it was too early in the game to
give a penalty spoken to few ex and current referees and all
have a said it was stonewall penalty
[/quote]
Who did the referee say that to and where is the source /
evidence?. There is no way on earth a senior level referee
would go on record to say that he didn't give a penalty because
it was too early.
#Post#: 87822--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: elbee94 Date: January 28, 2025, 9:20 am
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Night off for Aaron Bannister and team, as we continue to
struggle with a bad pitch. Looked very boggy on Saturday
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Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: nemesis Date: January 28, 2025, 10:36 am
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[quote author=rustyref link=topic=6639.msg87775#msg87775
date=1737998899]
[quote author=Sean43211 link=topic=6639.msg87734#msg87734
date=1737959292]
From the referee himself he said it was too early in the game to
give a penalty spoken to few ex and current referees and all
have a said it was stonewall penalty
[/quote]
Who did the referee say that to and where is the source /
evidence?. There is no way on earth a senior level referee
would go on record to say that he didn't give a penalty because
it was too early.
[/quote]
They might do it, they certainly wouldn't say it !
#Post#: 87845--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 24th – Wed 29th JAN 2025
By: rustyref Date: January 28, 2025, 3:23 pm
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[quote author=nemesis link=topic=6639.msg87825#msg87825
date=1738082201]
[quote author=rustyref link=topic=6639.msg87775#msg87775
date=1737998899]
[quote author=Sean43211 link=topic=6639.msg87734#msg87734
date=1737959292]
From the referee himself he said it was too early in the game to
give a penalty spoken to few ex and current referees and all
have a said it was stonewall penalty
[/quote]
Who did the referee say that to and where is the source /
evidence?. There is no way on earth a senior level referee
would go on record to say that he didn't give a penalty because
it was too early.
[/quote]
They might do it, they certainly wouldn't say it !
[/quote]
Can't and won't disagree with that.
I've had it myself when I've spoken to managers after games,
next thing I know is the match report has come out on their
website attributing words and comments to me that I most
definitely did not say. The most extreme being an interview
with the manager saying that I'd apologised for the decision and
agreed to never referee their team again, of which I had most
definitely done neither. Unfortunately for him the words I had
actually said had been in front on both assistants and the
observer, and as a result they were charged for the comments.
Managers will take anything that is said to them and twist it to
suit their narrative, I would take anything they say with a very
large pinch of salt.
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