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       #Post#: 87132--------------------------------------------------
       F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: carrowman
       Date: January 9, 2025, 2:04 pm
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       Who says the magic of the F A Cup has gone? Just look/watch
       Sheffield Utd v Cardiff City tonight ( Thursday !)
       I feel sorry for Adam Herczeg. When he got the appointment
       between 2 championship sides that have been in the premiership
       in the not too far past, I'm sure he would have been looking
       forward to what should have been one of the biggest games of his
       career so far. What has he got, basically a reserve game in
       front of an expected 6,000 gate.
       It would be interesting to know what the pricing level was set
       at and did Sheffield make any effort to get a crowd in or just
       accept as it was on a Thursday night and on BBC Wales not to
       bother.
       Is there anyone from the FA looking at this and feeling remotely
       embarrassed by this. And as for the scrapping of replays!!
       Wouldn't it be good if clubs that don't care about these "early"
       rounds be allowed to withdraw entirely and save their players.
       #Post#: 87133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: January 9, 2025, 2:51 pm
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       Not sure replays would make any difference, there'd just be
       4,000 at Cardiff if it went to a draw.
       This isn't anything new.  Cup games aren't covered by season
       tickets, fans know that teams will often put reserve, or
       severely weakened, teams out, so they don't go unless it is a
       glamour tie.
       #Post#: 87134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: January 9, 2025, 3:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > Not sure replays would make any difference, there'd just be
       4,000 at Cardiff if it went to a draw.
       >
       > This isn't anything new.  Cup games aren't covered by season
       tickets, fans know that teams will often put reserve, or
       severely weakened, teams out, so they don't go unless it is a
       glamour tie.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       However, if  they made good progress and by some miracle got to
       Wembley, they would be inundated by fans moaning that they could
       not get tickets.
       Plus ca change.
       #Post#: 87135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: January 9, 2025, 4:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ashington46 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=6605.msg87133#msg87133
       date=1736455916]
       > Not sure replays would make any difference, there'd just be
       4,000 at Cardiff if it went to a draw.
       >
       > This isn't anything new.  Cup games aren't covered by season
       tickets, fans know that teams will often put reserve, or
       severely weakened, teams out, so they don't go unless it is a
       glamour tie.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       However, if  they made good progress and by some miracle got to
       Wembley, they would be inundated by fans moaning that they could
       not get tickets.
       Plus ca change.
       [/quote]
       But they would be OK as they would be season ticket holders so
       guaranteed a final ticket.  More ironic would be those that paid
       to go tonight that aren't season tickets probably wouldn't get
       tickets for the final.
       It is what it is, and as I said, far from anything new.
       #Post#: 87136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: flipmode
       Date: January 9, 2025, 4:32 pm
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       I feel like countries overseas have a lot to answer for this,
       without really realising it.
       In Australia for example, the streaming broadcaster of exclusive
       PL rights, Optus Sport, snapped up FAC rights from 3rd Round
       onwards, and this is their first season.
       I've been seeing ads everywhere for it in Sydney. On buses, on
       the tunnel walls waiting for a train, across all of my socials,
       they are pumping it out that they have the rights and the magic
       of the cup is here
       Whilst it sucks, and I sympathise with the paying fans of both
       teams here, a 6am kick off time for us in Australia is far more
       convenient to watch than it is a 2am(3pmKO).
       Make no mistake about it; any kick off time in the UK past 5pm
       is not for the fans of the participating teams. It's for the
       global audience.
       #Post#: 87137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: January 9, 2025, 5:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: flipmode link ---
       >
       > I feel like countries overseas have a lot to answer for this,
       without really realising it.
       >
       > In Australia for example, the streaming broadcaster of
       exclusive PL rights, Optus Sport, snapped up FAC rights from 3rd
       Round onwards, and this is their first season.
       > I've been seeing ads everywhere for it in Sydney. On buses, on
       the tunnel walls waiting for a train, across all of my socials,
       they are pumping it out that they have the rights and the magic
       of the cup is here
       >
       > Whilst it sucks, and I sympathise with the paying fans of both
       teams here, a 6am kick off time for us in Australia is far more
       convenient to watch than it is a 2am(3pmKO).
       >
       > Make no mistake about it; any kick off time in the UK past 5pm
       is not for the fans of the participating teams. It's for the
       global audience.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       100% it is down to TV rights, we already have the baffling
       situation that 100% of EPL games can be watched anywhere in the
       World, except of course the country the game are being played
       in.
       But equally some of the kick offs are strange.  Tomorrow we have
       Coventry vs Wednesday, Leyton Orient vs Derby and Mansfield vs
       Wigan all kicking off at 18:00.  From what I can ascertain they
       aren't being televised anywhere in the world, so the mind
       boggles as to why they aren't standard 3pm kick offs.
       #Post#: 87139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: flipmode
       Date: January 9, 2025, 8:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > But equally some of the kick offs are strange.  Tomorrow we
       have Coventry vs Wednesday, Leyton Orient vs Derby and Mansfield
       vs Wigan all kicking off at 18:00.  From what I can ascertain
       they aren't being televised anywhere in the world, so the mind
       boggles as to why they aren't standard 3pm kick offs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I suspect we're to blame for that. [emoji23]
       All three of those games are live, and available to watch via
       Optus Sport here in Australia.
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       #Post#: 87141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: January 10, 2025, 3:12 am
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Ashington46 link=topic=6605.msg87134#msg87134
       date=1736459826]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=6605.msg87133#msg87133
       date=1736455916]
       > Not sure replays would make any difference, there'd just be
       4,000 at Cardiff if it went to a draw.
       >
       > This isn't anything new.  Cup games aren't covered by season
       tickets, fans know that teams will often put reserve, or
       severely weakened, teams out, so they don't go unless it is a
       glamour tie.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       However, if  they made good progress and by some miracle got to
       Wembley, they would be inundated by fans moaning that they could
       not get tickets.
       Plus ca change.
       [/quote]
       But they would be OK as they would be season ticket holders so
       guaranteed a final ticket.  More ironic would be those that paid
       to go tonight that aren't season tickets probably wouldn't get
       tickets for the final.
       It is what it is, and as I said, far from anything new.
       [/quote]
       We have a points system at AFCB and cup points are separate to
       league points. Cup points take priority in cup games so you drag
       yourself out to watch the dev squad just to make sure you’re
       first in line for the latter stages if you get there!
       #Post#: 87142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: January 10, 2025, 4:18 am
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=flipmode link=topic=6605.msg87136#msg87136
       date=1736461957]
       > I feel like countries overseas have a lot to answer for this,
       without really realising it.
       >
       > In Australia for example, the streaming broadcaster of
       exclusive PL rights, Optus Sport, snapped up FAC rights from 3rd
       Round onwards, and this is their first season.
       > I've been seeing ads everywhere for it in Sydney. On buses, on
       the tunnel walls waiting for a train, across all of my socials,
       they are pumping it out that they have the rights and the magic
       of the cup is here
       >
       > Whilst it sucks, and I sympathise with the paying fans of both
       teams here, a 6am kick off time for us in Australia is far more
       convenient to watch than it is a 2am(3pmKO).
       >
       > Make no mistake about it; any kick off time in the UK past 5pm
       is not for the fans of the participating teams. It's for the
       global audience.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       100% it is down to TV rights, we already have the baffling
       situation that 100% of EPL games can be watched anywhere in the
       World, except of course the country the game are being played
       in.
       But equally some of the kick offs are strange.  Tomorrow we have
       Coventry vs Wednesday, Leyton Orient vs Derby and Mansfield vs
       Wigan all kicking off at 18:00.  From what I can ascertain they
       aren't being televised anywhere in the world, so the mind
       boggles as to why they aren't standard 3pm kick offs.
       [/quote]
       Not ideal kick off times in the present weather but then i guess
       a frozen pitch at 6pm might have been frozen at q
       12 or 2pm
       #Post#: 87146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: F A Cup 3rd Round weekend
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: January 10, 2025, 6:21 am
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       --- Quote from: carrowman link ---
       >
       > I feel sorry for Adam Herczeg. When he got the appointment
       between 2 championship sides that have been in the premiership
       in the not too far past, I'm sure he would have been looking
       forward to what should have been one of the biggest games of his
       career so far. What has he got, basically a reserve game in
       front of an expected 6,000 gate.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Given that the appointments were not made until Monday, unless
       he lives a cocoon insulated from all football knowledge apart
       from when he is on the pitch, I rather suspect Mr Herczeg would
       have known exactly what to expect from this game.
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