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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: Jherbert
Date: March 23, 2019, 4:19 pm
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Ah yes. On the TV it wa so clear. I’m sure the referee had that
same view
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: patrickj2211
Date: March 23, 2019, 4:59 pm
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Interesting debate. It was a bad mistake but i suppose from the
referees position it looked inside. Hopefully VAR will be used
soon to help out the referees
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: rustyref
Date: March 23, 2019, 6:49 pm
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--- Quote from: Jherbert link ---
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> Ah yes. On the TV it wa so clear. I’m sure the referee had
that same view
>
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Don't defend the indefensible. It was clear to see real time
and the referee and his colleagues have made a serious error, it
happens and will continue to happen, but it can't be defended.
This is one of the key thing of refereeing, when you make a
mistake hold your hands up.
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: TVOS
Date: March 24, 2019, 3:39 am
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> Sorry but what a load of tosh. I am sure at the time he saw
the fouls and was sure it was inside. Yes he got it wrong. It
was an error. As I have said before, many other referees have
made huge errors. Poll - World Cup (3 yellows)
> , Webb World Cup final (red card cahenge), Tom Henning Ovtebo
(Chelsea v Barcelona). Martin Atkinson (goal given in semi final
of FA Cup at Wembley by him when ball did not cross the line
(Spurs v chelsea 2012) Collina (Champions league final missed
penalty)
>
> All great referees who have also made crucial errors. Did they
have a place being out there afterwards??? I think they did.
Everyone makes mistakes
>
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We know and nobody has said otherwise.
You’re still missing the point.
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: Jherbert
Date: March 24, 2019, 3:54 am
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What’s the point then TVOS?
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: Mackem ref
Date: March 24, 2019, 4:18 am
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It seems like we are starting to go round in circles with this
debate. It’s clear that neither of you are likely to agree to
each other’s points so can we please agree to disagree and move
on!
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: TVOS
Date: March 24, 2019, 4:33 am
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--- Quote from: Jherbert link ---
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> What’s the point then TVOS?
>
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The point is the title of this forum.
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: TVOS
Date: March 24, 2019, 4:34 am
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--- Quote from: Mackem ref link ---
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> It seems like we are starting to go round in circles with this
debate. It’s clear that neither of you are likely to agree to
each other’s points so can we please agree to disagree and move
on!
>
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Sorry dad!
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: kelxref
Date: March 24, 2019, 4:53 am
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Whilst I agree this was a bad error, I do have some sympathy
with the referee and think UEFA is partly to blame for this.
Ruddy Buquet works with VAR every week in his national league,
he works with AARs in Europa League games, so whilst I
understand we can’t yet have VAR in all Euro qualifiers, I don’t
understand why UEFA is not appointing AARs for these games.
After all they did appoint them for the less important Nations
league games earlier in the season, and I think their presence
in the game in Sofia would probably have prevented this error
occuring.
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Re: Bulgaria v Montenegro - Ruddy Buquet
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 24, 2019, 7:17 am
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--- Quote from: kelxref link ---
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> Whilst I agree this was a bad error, I do have some sympathy
with the referee and think UEFA is partly to blame for this.
Ruddy Buquet works with VAR every week in his national league,
he works with AARs in Europa League games, so whilst I
understand we can’t yet have VAR in all Euro qualifiers, I don’t
understand why UEFA is not appointing AARs for these games.
After all they did appoint them for the less important Nations
league games earlier in the season, and I think their presence
in the game in Sofia would probably have prevented this error
occuring.
>
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Agree one or the other would have prevented this & I further
agree that one or the other should have been used but I'm sorry
- he is a FIFA referee and as such should be perfectly capable
of making these decisions correctly on his own, no VAR or AAR to
hold his hand & make them for him. If he can no longer make
decisions on his own then it goes a huge way to proving a point
made by many of the detractors to VAR that it will stop in
particular less competent referees from making decisions because
VAR will make the decisions for them.
As for calling the Nations League less important I beg to
differ, I sincerely doubt the teams that qualified for the Euros
via it found it any less important, in fact I think they will
have found it a vital lifeline & probably more important than
the qualifiers. If only the MLSz had done what the fans asked
and appointed Rossi the first time round instead of subjecting
the Hungary NT to 10 months of Leekens, Hungary would have
potentially qualified during the tournament, instead of messing
that up & the qualifiers! It might seem unimportant to the big
teams who always qualify for these things but it's certainly not
seen as such by the smaller nations where it is potentially the
only route to take part in a tournament.
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