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       Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB - topics merged
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: December 29, 2024, 11:30 am
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       Robert Jones continues to be a bad omen when appointed to our
       games! At least it wasn’t orange as feared!😜
       Not seen the full match, but reports suggests a pretty feisty
       affair.
       I have seen the brief highlights and I really do think Christie
       should have walked for his studs up challenge on Robinson.
       Why Bankes in VAR didn’t come in and recommend a review was very
       perplexing.
       #Post#: 86561--------------------------------------------------
       Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: December 29, 2024, 11:37 am
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       Wore blue to keep both Missy bmb and TTFL happy! That is no mean
       feat it has to be said!!
       First and foremost what a cracking game of football. 2 on form
       teams just getting on and playing ball and thoroughly enjoying
       themselves out there. No-one can say we were not entertained.
       Special mention for Wilson's goal - an absolute beauty
       [emoji122]
       As to team ref - I thought they enhanced the game with a decent
       performance. Hill with a goal disallowed for a shirt pull by
       Semenyo, can't complain about that too much. The only perhaps
       contentious decision was the yellow card for Ryan Christie. Was
       an orange for me and you could easily accept either red or
       yellow, VAR was never going to overrule the ref's call. It was
       quite high and I do feel he led with his studs but also feel a
       yellow was the correct call in the context of the game. Fulham
       fans may disagree and I would understand that, element of luck
       in our favour for once.
       I think a draw was the right result, neither team deserved to
       lose. They'll have a hard time whittling down the highlights,
       there were plenty of them from both teams. Roll on the 2nd half
       of the season.
       #Post#: 86567--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB - topics merged
   DIR By: Cottager
       Date: December 29, 2024, 1:44 pm
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       Great game,fair result and officials did well.No complaints from
       me.
       #Post#: 86569--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB - topics merged
   DIR By: Craven
       Date: December 29, 2024, 2:25 pm
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       Concur with everything said so far. I was there, and enjoyed a
       thoroughly decent game of football, in which Rob Jones did very
       well IMHO.
       I’ve not had a chance to see a replay of the tackle yet, but
       thought red as it happened. It looked high, but Rob Jones was a
       lot closer than me and happy to go with his decision.
       From a football perspective, don’t think either set of fans
       could complain at the result, Bournemouth bossed the first half,
       Fulham bossed the second.
       Excellent from Rob, no complaints at all 👍🏼
       #Post#: 86626--------------------------------------------------
       Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB - topics merged
   DIR By: Arbitre anglais
       Date: December 30, 2024, 5:29 pm
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       Only just caught up with highlights.  What did people think of
       the late BOU equaliser? Seemed like a blatant foul in the build
       up (and should probably actually be a YC for reckless challenge)
       - defender pokes the ball away and the BOU player gets there
       second with studs on ankle. Commentator says VAR mentions more
       non-LOAF nonsense about ‘momentum’??! Almost every foul is a
       player getting the ball just ahead of another player and being
       caught by an opponent who gets there second - by that
       definition, 90% of FKs aren’t fouls. The danger with VAR being
       heard by commentators is surely that some of this nonsense is
       being heard and will then be thrown back at referees over other
       decisions.
       #Post#: 86648--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB - topics merged
   DIR By: Craven
       Date: December 31, 2024, 6:36 am
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       --- Quote from: Arbitre anglais link ---
       >
       > Only just caught up with highlights.  What did people think of
       the late BOU equaliser? Seemed like a blatant foul in the build
       up (and should probably actually be a YC for reckless challenge)
       - defender pokes the ball away and the BOU player gets there
       second with studs on ankle. Commentator says VAR mentions more
       non-LOAF nonsense about ‘momentum’??! Almost every foul is a
       player getting the ball just ahead of another player and being
       caught by an opponent who gets there second - by that
       definition, 90% of FKs aren’t fouls. The danger with VAR being
       heard by commentators is surely that some of this nonsense is
       being heard and will then be thrown back at referees over other
       decisions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I certainly think it’s a blatant foul. Don’t necessarily blame
       Jones for missing it, but definitely something VAR should pick
       up. I haven’t mentioned it as I have a dog in the fight and
       could be accused of a Fulham bias, but looks an obvious error to
       me.
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       Re: Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB - topics merged
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: December 31, 2024, 7:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Craven link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Arbitre anglais
       link=topic=6562.msg86626#msg86626 date=1735601363]
       > Only just caught up with highlights.  What did people think of
       the late BOU equaliser? Seemed like a blatant foul in the build
       up (and should probably actually be a YC for reckless challenge)
       - defender pokes the ball away and the BOU player gets there
       second with studs on ankle. Commentator says VAR mentions more
       non-LOAF nonsense about ‘momentum’??! Almost every foul is a
       player getting the ball just ahead of another player and being
       caught by an opponent who gets there second - by that
       definition, 90% of FKs aren’t fouls. The danger with VAR being
       heard by commentators is surely that some of this nonsense is
       being heard and will then be thrown back at referees over other
       decisions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I certainly think it’s a blatant foul. Don’t necessarily blame
       Jones for missing it, but definitely something VAR should pick
       up. I haven’t mentioned it as I have a dog in the fight and
       could be accused of a Fulham bias, but looks an obvious error to
       me.
       [/quote]
       Personally I think it's swings and roundabouts - having watched
       Hill's disallowed goal back I don't think that was a foul and
       the goal should have stood so 1 goal wrongly disallowed and 1
       wrongly allowed.
       #Post#: 86682--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rob Jones - Fulham v AFCB - topics merged
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: December 31, 2024, 1:25 pm
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       From Dale Johnson:
       VAR review: While Christie was off the ground, he led with one
       foot and made only small contact with Robinson's shin.
       The fact that Christie's foot came off the ball first is
       irrelevant; it's how he connects with the opponent (as usual,
       see Liverpool's Curtis Jones at Tottenham Hotspur last season.)
       If there had been any more contact, then it would have been a
       VAR intervention.
       There are similarities to Moisés Caicedo's challenge on Pape
       Matar Sarr in Chelsea vs. Tottenham, which also didn't lead to a
       VAR review at the pitchside monitor -- an outcome supported by
       Howard Webb and the KMI Panel.
       Verdict: This is right on the borderline between yellow and red,
       unlike the challenge by Brighton's Pervis Estupiñán on Max
       Kilman before Christmas which should have resulted in a VAR
       intervention.
       The KMI Panel may log this as a red card on the field, but it's
       not at the threshold for VAR.
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