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       Re: Six Nations 2025
       By: Failed Ref Date: March 15, 2025, 4:16 pm
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       Provoked, the French player retaliated and through himself at
       the Scottish player who was hit in the face. His reaction was
       embarrassing, he appeared to exaggerate the injury. It was head
       to head, but it was very low down and the force minimal. Foolish
       and unacceptable, but I feel YC correct. So, penalty to France
       initially, reversed for foul play and YC issued.
       I cannot warm to Carley, not a smiler like Pearce who is
       arguably too cheerful especially when he's telling you he's
       disallowed your try (!), but Carley is very accurate and firm.
       Both English men are good imho and Pearce speaks French.
       #Post#: 89774--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Nations 2025
       By: Hendo Date: March 15, 2025, 4:18 pm
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       [quote author=BabyRef link=topic=6536.msg89766#msg89766
       date=1742060539]
       I thought Luke Pearce was superb - mystifies me why he's not
       seen as England's No.1
       [/quote]
       It may be an old comment but just as relevant, if not more so,
       as it was when first made. Pearce is a superb ref and has been
       treated disgusting by the powers that be for too long now.
       Carley and Dickson better than Pearce? - my ar5e!
       #Post#: 89777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Nations 2025
       By: RCG Date: March 15, 2025, 8:58 pm
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       [quote author=Failed Ref link=topic=6536.msg89773#msg89773
       date=1742073396]
       Provoked, the French player retaliated and through himself at
       the Scottish player who was hit in the face. His reaction was
       embarrassing, he appeared to exaggerate the injury. It was head
       to head, but it was very low down and the force minimal. Foolish
       and unacceptable, but I feel YC correct. So, penalty to France
       initially, reversed for foul play and YC issued.
       [/quote]
       The provocation came from Ramos pushing white over, who fell
       onto the hooker. He in turn dived on s prone player, after the
       game had stopped and made contact head on face
       Whilst you can argue force was minimal my question was "why is
       he doing this?"
       It's not a ruck nor a tackle so surely its ALWAYS foul play and
       therefore was just a cheap shot
       I'm surprised (especially given it was Tempest as FPRO) that it
       came back as yellow
       If that happens in the Premiership I am sure it would be red
       (and quite rightly IMHO)
       As said above Carley is not a smiler, does little to work with
       players BUT has a very high accuracy level, which means he is
       respected if not liked
       I thought both he and Luke Pearce performed really well
       #Post#: 89860--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Nations 2025
       By: Hendo Date: March 17, 2025, 3:40 pm
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       Well don’t know about you but I feel it’s been one of the most
       enjoyable 6 Nations for a few years. Over 800 points scored at
       an average of 55 per game must be one of the highest for some
       time.
       Overall I think World Rugby will be happy with the refereeing.
       Yes there were a few issues but most of the refs stepped up to
       the plate and did well.
       For me the outstanding refs were Nika Amushakeli, Angus Gardner,
       Christope Ridley and Luke Pearce but others may feel
       differently.
       #Post#: 89881--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Nations 2025
       By: Failed Ref Date: March 19, 2025, 11:27 am
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       Mauvaka has been cited for his head butt on Ben White. What do I
       know about RC thresholds? It will irritate the French after the
       Dupont injury against Ireland where no action was taken but WR
       may be unhappy with the officials and their failure to upgrade
       the YC to red. Ian Tempest was it in the bunker?
       #Post#: 89886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Nations 2025
       By: RCG Date: March 19, 2025, 2:20 pm
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       It was IT and yes it surprised me it didn't come back at least a
       20 min red; to me it was attempted thuggery and should have been
       straight red
       #Post#: 89889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Six Nations 2025
       By: Failed Ref Date: March 20, 2025, 4:02 am
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       Upon reflection, although the officials were looking at it as
       illegal contact with the head, isn't what happened really a case
       of violent conduct similar to throwing a punch to the head. In
       the case of the latter, isn't it the case that the 20 minute
       rule wouldn't apply? Straight red, France permanently down to
       14.
       If this were the case, then the result may have been different,
       and England could have won the Six Nations. And Gregor Townsenx
       would be getting less criticism. Mind you, France are so good
       they may well have won with 14.
       Edit to reflect subsequent 3 match ban: From Rugbypass.com which
       sums it up better than I could. "While 20-minute red cards were
       in force over the Six Nations for technical offences, this would
       have warranted a permanent red as it would have been deemed a
       deliberate and dangerous act of foul play, meaning France would
       have been down to 14 players for the majority of the match."
       Carley will carry the can for that one I'm afraid.
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