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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: Nowayreferee
Date: November 7, 2024, 2:01 pm
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IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while back
that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it was
for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is there
on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: Charlieboy
Date: November 7, 2024, 4:25 pm
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--- Quote from: Nowayreferee link ---
>
> IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while
back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it
was for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
>
> Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is
there on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
>
--- End Quote ---
How exciting, you know him personally then?
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Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: TVOS
Date: November 7, 2024, 7:14 pm
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--- Quote from: Nowayreferee link ---
>
> IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while
back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it
was for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
>
> Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is
there on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
>
--- End Quote ---
He did well to sign autographs at Fulham from Selhurst Park!
#Post#: 84751--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: RefGod
Date: November 8, 2024, 8:21 am
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--- Quote from: Nowayreferee link ---
>
> IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while
back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it
was for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
>
> Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is
there on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't
remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he
has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.
#Post#: 84752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: DaveOggy93
Date: November 8, 2024, 9:06 am
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--- Quote from: Hendo link ---
>
> Some observations -
>
> Lewis Smith on the Sheffield derby. I have said before that I
can’t see what the powers that be see in him. To me he is
overrated - much prefer Josh Smith - but this will be his 5th
big game in just 3 weeks, mostly all televised too. I am
gobsmacked
>
> Gavin Ward with another Championship game, which will be his
3rd in just over a week. All those of us on RTR who feel he is a
weak and overrated ref must be missing something but I can’t see
what
>
> Farai Hallam - on merit or another case of promoting ethnic
minorities? Interesting that Sunny Gill Singh’s star has
plummeted since its rise last year.
>
> James Linington on 2 4th0 appointments after picking up 2 last
weekend. This will make 12 4thO duties already for him this
season, after a similar spate last year. What is going on?
>
--- End Quote ---
I though that Lewis Smith had decent game (Preston vs
Sunderland) on Wednesday, he got the big call right. However he
wasnt over fussy and let the game flow were needed
#Post#: 84759--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: November 8, 2024, 10:51 am
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--- Quote from: RefGod link ---
>
> [quote author=Nowayreferee link=topic=6407.msg84735#msg84735
date=1731009711]
> IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while
back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it
was for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
>
> Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is
there on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't
remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he
has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.
[/quote]
I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that
arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in
relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words
which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession
was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr
Mackay.
Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based
on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a
firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.
As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It
could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to
do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then
it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly.
My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an
autograph book and not a blank cheque.
#Post#: 84761--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: tomp
Date: November 8, 2024, 11:29 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> [quote author=RefGod link=topic=6407.msg84751#msg84751
date=1731075672]
> [quote author=Nowayreferee link=topic=6407.msg84735#msg84735
date=1731009711]
> IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while
back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it
was for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
>
> Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is
there on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't
remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he
has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.
[/quote]
I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that
arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in
relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words
which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession
was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr
Mackay.
Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based
on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a
firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.
As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It
could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to
do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then
it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly.
My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an
autograph book and not a blank cheque.
[/quote]
I think timing is key with regards to autographs, if it’s on
arrival or during the warm-up I think it’s fine but signing as
you are about to go on for the second half is always going to
gather attention with the cameras rolling at that stage.
I’ve got lots of autographs from current referees including
Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and National List. I usually ask
them on arrival and most are friendly. I have only ever had one
refusal.
#Post#: 84767--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: November 8, 2024, 2:29 pm
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--- Quote from: tomp link ---
>
> [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6407.msg84759#msg84759
date=1731084685]
> [quote author=RefGod link=topic=6407.msg84751#msg84751
date=1731075672]
> [quote author=Nowayreferee link=topic=6407.msg84735#msg84735
date=1731009711]
> IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while
back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it
was for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
>
> Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is
there on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't
remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he
has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.
[/quote]
I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that
arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in
relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words
which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession
was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr
Mackay.
Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based
on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a
firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.
As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It
could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to
do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then
it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly.
My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an
autograph book and not a blank cheque.
[/quote]
I think timing is key with regards to autographs, if it’s on
arrival or during the warm-up I think it’s fine but signing as
you are about to go on for the second half is always going to
gather attention with the cameras rolling at that stage.
I’ve got lots of autographs from current referees including
Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and National List. I usually ask
them on arrival and most are friendly. I have only ever had one
refusal.
[/quote]
Oh, do say who the refusal was. As a jest I once asked Peter
Jones for his autograph and he would only give it on condition
that I gave him mine first ! !
#Post#: 84777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: tomp
Date: November 9, 2024, 2:50 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> [quote author=tomp link=topic=6407.msg84761#msg84761
date=1731086976]
> [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6407.msg84759#msg84759
date=1731084685]
> [quote author=RefGod link=topic=6407.msg84751#msg84751
date=1731075672]
> [quote author=Nowayreferee link=topic=6407.msg84735#msg84735
date=1731009711]
> IMO Sunny’s arrogance lets him down. He knew from a while
back that he was destined to get near the top, unfortunately it
was for the wrong reasons, that we know. Signing autographs at
Fulham was probably his biggest mistake!
>
> Farai has impressed and I would definitely say that he is
there on merit. I can see him aligned to SG2 before the former.
>
--- End Quote ---
Completely agree in relation to autographs but Sunny isn't
remotely arrogant from having worked with him. If anything he
has a relatively timid approach for a senior referee.
[/quote]
I haven't worked with him but have met him and concur that
arrogant is just about the last word which comes to mind in
relation to Sunny Singh Gill. Modest and retiring are words
which readily do come to mind. I believe his former profession
was that of prison officer; far more Mr Barraclough than Mr
Mackay.
Personally I am not sure he is ready for promotion to SG2 based
on the matches which I have seen. He never quite seems to get a
firm enough grip on a match when a firm grip is required.
As to signing an autograph; you can't win as a referee here. It
could be construed that signing is rather a puffed up thing to
do but if someone askes for your autograph and you refuse then
it can all too easily come over as being aloof and unfriendly.
My advice is sign, always assuming it is a programme or an
autograph book and not a blank cheque.
[/quote]
I think timing is key with regards to autographs, if it’s on
arrival or during the warm-up I think it’s fine but signing as
you are about to go on for the second half is always going to
gather attention with the cameras rolling at that stage.
I’ve got lots of autographs from current referees including
Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and National List. I usually ask
them on arrival and most are friendly. I have only ever had one
refusal.
[/quote]
Oh, do say who the refusal was. As a jest I once asked Peter
Jones for his autograph and he would only give it on condition
that I gave him mine first ! !
[/quote]
It was Ben Speedie but I think it was more because he was
surprised to be asked rather than arrogance haha.
I am trying to get all referee’s from Select Group 1 right down
to the National Group. I’ve probably got about half currently
and added Andrew Kitchen and Lewis Smith to my collection in the
last couple of weeks.
#Post#: 84862--------------------------------------------------
Re: Fri 8th – Sun 10th NOV 2024
DIR By: elbee94
Date: November 10, 2024, 4:16 pm
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I thought Lewis Smith was excellent earlier in the Steel City
derby. Wasn’t the most crazy of derbies but I can only think of
a couple of minor decisions I disagreed with. He gave a couple
of really soft free kicks early on and I worried he’d set a bad
precedent but no issues after that. He’ll have tougher games but
as derby games go, he sailed through.
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