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       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: October 20, 2024, 10:31 am
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       I entirely agree that at the moment Stones headed the ball,
       interference with the keeper was not happening but I do believe
       the goalkeeper, while the ball was coming in from the corner,
       had his movement impeded.
       No doubt I shall be in the minority in this view but I hold to
       it.
       #Post#: 84068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: October 20, 2024, 10:34 am
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       If impeding the goalkeeper's movement is not foul play then so
       be it, the goal is rightly awarded.
       #Post#: 84070--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: carrowman
       Date: October 20, 2024, 10:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > I entirely agree that at the moment Stones headed the ball,
       interference with the keeper was not happening but I do believe
       the goalkeeper, while the ball was coming in from the corner,
       had his movement impeded.
       >
       > No doubt I shall be in the minority in this view but I hold to
       it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm happy to be in the minority with you. Sa in my opinion was
       denied an opportunity to go for the ball.
       #Post#: 84071--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: Midlander
       Date: October 20, 2024, 10:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > When the ball leaves the quadrant it is live and there was
       interference with the goal keeper while the ball was moving,
       therefore why wasn't a free kick to the defence be awarded for
       goal keeper interference ? The offside business is a red
       herring. If I was a Wolves supporter I would feel very aggrieved
       but then debatable decisions always seem to be given to the top
       clubs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Because it quite simply is not a foul.
       If we give a FK for that level of contact then by the same
       measuring stick we would be giving penalty kicks for that. is
       that really where you would have the game go??
       Let’s just make football non-contact and have done with it. That
       way we all know where we stand right……….
       🤷🏼‍♂️
       #Post#: 84072--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: October 20, 2024, 10:41 am
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       --- Quote from: carrowman link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6361.msg84066#msg84066
       date=1729438283]
       > I entirely agree that at the moment Stones headed the ball,
       interference with the keeper was not happening but I do believe
       the goalkeeper, while the ball was coming in from the corner,
       had his movement impeded.
       >
       > No doubt I shall be in the minority in this view but I hold to
       it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm happy to be in the minority with you. Sa in my opinion was
       denied an opportunity to go for the ball.
       [/quote]
       Remarkable and commendable convergence by East Anglian rivals.
       😇
       #Post#: 84073--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: ARF
       Date: October 20, 2024, 10:54 am
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  HTML https://x.com/Nordqvist80/status/1848016744725582252?t=a85QGkvru0pgUskE5c2wrg&s=19
       Not a foul or an offside offence IMO. Not controversial in the
       slightest.
       #Post#: 84089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: October 20, 2024, 2:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: Midlander link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6361.msg84063#msg84063
       date=1729437696]
       > When the ball leaves the quadrant it is live and there was
       interference with the goal keeper while the ball was moving,
       therefore why wasn't a free kick to the defence be awarded for
       goal keeper interference ? The offside business is a red
       herring. If I was a Wolves supporter I would feel very aggrieved
       but then debatable decisions always seem to be given to the top
       clubs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Because it quite simply is not a foul.
       If we give a FK for that level of contact then by the same
       measuring stick we would be giving penalty kicks for that. is
       that really where you would have the game go??
       Let’s just make football non-contact and have done with it. That
       way we all know where we stand right……….
       🤷🏼‍♂️
       [/quote]
       We might just as well stop awarding corners and skip that bit,
       award a defence free kick each time instead to save time.
       There have been far worse incidents in the penalty area this
       weekend from corner kicks that should have been penalised and
       gone unpunished.
       #Post#: 84110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: October 21, 2024, 6:38 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > I entirely agree that at the moment Stones headed the ball,
       interference with the keeper was not happening but I do believe
       the goalkeeper, while the ball was coming in from the corner,
       had his movement impeded.
       >
       > No doubt I shall be in the minority in this view but I hold to
       it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I initially agreed with this view as well but the counter point
       on whether I would want  a penalty awarded the other way won the
       argument for me, so seeing as the offside call to me isn’t
       really very controversial I feel the officials got it right.
       I also think IMHO the 4th official is still putting up with too
       much abuse and dissent, I think a re doubling of efforts would
       be helpful there.
       #Post#: 84153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: Microscopist
       Date: October 22, 2024, 3:33 am
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       --- Quote from: DublinRef link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6361.msg84066#msg84066
       date=1729438283]
       > I entirely agree that at the moment Stones headed the ball,
       interference with the keeper was not happening but I do believe
       the goalkeeper, while the ball was coming in from the corner,
       had his movement impeded.
       >
       > No doubt I shall be in the minority in this view but I hold to
       it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I initially agreed with this view as well but the counter point
       on whether I would want  a penalty awarded the other way won the
       argument for me, so seeing as the offside call to me isn’t
       really very controversial I feel the officials got it right.
       I also think IMHO the 4th official is still putting up with too
       much abuse and dissent, I think a re doubling of efforts would
       be helpful there.
       [/quote]
       Just so, if that was a foul by Silva then nearly every corner
       would result in either a penalty or defensive free kick
       depending on which the referee happened to see first.  However,
       some teams have got blocking the goalkeeper off to a fine art.
       Take as an example Arsenal's second goal in the recent City
       Arsenal game.
       ]
  HTML https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=431097160007706&set=pcb.431097226674366
       As the kick was taken the two Arsenal players were about 3-4
       yards away from Ederson and made synchronised runs to be one
       either side of Ederson and ultimately knocking him to the ground
       as the header by Gabriel was made.  Referee Oliver and VAR
       Brooks saw nothing wrong with this and there was little comment
       on it, even with a couple of pages on the match here on RTR.
       Wherefore wert thou all?
       #Post#: 84176--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wolves v Man City: Chris Kavanagh 
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: October 22, 2024, 7:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Microscopist link ---
       >
       > [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=6361.msg84110#msg84110
       date=1729510687]
       > [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6361.msg84066#msg84066
       date=1729438283]
       > I entirely agree that at the moment Stones headed the ball,
       interference with the keeper was not happening but I do believe
       the goalkeeper, while the ball was coming in from the corner,
       had his movement impeded.
       >
       > No doubt I shall be in the minority in this view but I hold to
       it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I initially agreed with this view as well but the counter point
       on whether I would want  a penalty awarded the other way won the
       argument for me, so seeing as the offside call to me isn’t
       really very controversial I feel the officials got it right.
       I also think IMHO the 4th official is still putting up with too
       much abuse and dissent, I think a re doubling of efforts would
       be helpful there.
       [/quote]
       Just so, if that was a foul by Silva then nearly every corner
       would result in either a penalty or defensive free kick
       depending on which the referee happened to see first.  However,
       some teams have got blocking the goalkeeper off to a fine art.
       Take as an example Arsenal's second goal in the recent City
       Arsenal game.
       ]
  HTML https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=431097160007706&set=pcb.431097226674366
       As the kick was taken the two Arsenal players were about 3-4
       yards away from Ederson and made synchronised runs to be one
       either side of Ederson and ultimately knocking him to the ground
       as the header by Gabriel was made.  Referee Oliver and VAR
       Brooks saw nothing wrong with this and there was little comment
       on it, even with a couple of pages on the match here on RTR.
       Wherefore wert thou all?
       [/quote]
       I answereth only for my own self; not watching it live on Mr
       Baird's invention and therefore not in a position to pass
       comment.
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