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       #Post#: 83989--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: elbee94 Date: October 19, 2024, 1:28 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Whilst I can’t comment on a game I haven’t seen, our Crewe fans
       align with my concerns over Sunny’s ability - I do believe a
       good ref could be in there but when it goes wrong, it does often
       go very wrong for him.
       Colchester United FC (First Team) v Cheltenham Town (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Speedie, Benjamin
       Assistant Referee: Chard, Michael
       Assistant Referee: Mingay, Bradley
       Fourth Official: Brown, Stephen
       Onto our game… where unfortunately team ref had a poor day in my
       eyes. I’ll start with the positives and the better second half,
       where Colchester played at a slow tempo against a very defensive
       Cheltenham, making for dreadful viewing. Ben looked to
       communicate really well, even explaining decisions I disagreed
       with in an animated fashion and his timekeeping was fine. One
       Cheltenham attack led to 3 fouls by the visitors, only the third
       one was awarded and nearly cost Colchester a goal. Both AR’s
       made one clear incorrect decision, AR1 awarding a corner rather
       than a goal kick and AR2 giving Colchester a throw after they
       hoofed it out!
       However, to be frank, the first half was a mess from Ben. In my
       experience, he lets the game go as much as he can and not for
       the first time, he was far too lenient. It became a brawl of
       nonstop shirtpulls and pushes with probably 20% of the fouls
       being awarded. From a viewing standpoint, it was very poor. A
       very strong shirtpull penalty shout was waved away in the first
       20 seconds, the only KMI he got wrong for me. He did follow that
       up with an excellent denial of a penalty claim with the
       Colchester striker putting his feet in the way of the defender
       rather than winning a foul.
       That rubbish second half from a footballing standpoint saved Ben
       I think, I wouldn’t have liked to see players continue in the
       same fashion for another half of football. Definite improvements
       required from Ben in my view with regards to tolerance and
       “setting the tone”.
       #Post#: 83998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: ajb95 Date: October 19, 2024, 2:26 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Sat 19th Oct 2024
       Blackpool FC (First Team) v Barnsley FC (First Team)
       Football League 1
       Referee: Howard, Paul
       Assistant Referee: Cavanagh, William
       Assistant Referee: Gray, Alex
       Fourth Official: Kennard-Kettle, Zac
       Just eeen on Twitter than Paul stopped the game on 4 mins so
       players and officials could join in a round of applause in
       memory of Steve Bruce’s grandson. Well done to him!
       #Post#: 84005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: aaa Date: October 19, 2024, 3:04 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83987#msg83987
       date=1729362310]
       [quote author=aaa link=topic=6346.msg83984#msg83984
       date=1729361691]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       While your assessment of the match is informative, it would be
       good to take the emotion out of it.  So rather than write as an
       angry fan, try to analyse his performance as a fellow Referee.
       All the competencies.
       Oh, it not Observer's job to have a go at the Officials, he or
       she just need to debrief the Officials, point to strengths and
       development opportunities, watch match footage and write report.
       Its the job of Referee's Coach to do the informal debrief.
       [/quote]
       I tried to take the emotion out of it, but honestly I couldn’t
       do much else! As a fellow ref, I thought he was extremely poor
       and not up to the correct standard that the EFL need. The
       previous Crewe v Salford games have been very feisty. They need
       more experienced refs on it in the future, Darren Drysdale etc.
       I’ve got to be honest, I did think it was the Observer’s job to
       have a go at the officials. So obviously I am wrong. Whoever the
       ref coach is, needs to be having strong words.
       [/quote]
       Of course, you were entitled to shared your opinion.  To be
       fair, your assessment of matches were informative and good to
       read.  I'm only pointing to the obvious from your first
       paragraph.  I hope his observation report reflect his overall
       poor performance.
       #Post#: 84010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: Ryanellis Date: October 19, 2024, 4:05 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=aaa link=topic=6346.msg84005#msg84005
       date=1729368291]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83987#msg83987
       date=1729362310]
       [quote author=aaa link=topic=6346.msg83984#msg83984
       date=1729361691]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       While your assessment of the match is informative, it would be
       good to take the emotion out of it.  So rather than write as an
       angry fan, try to analyse his performance as a fellow Referee.
       All the competencies.
       Oh, it not Observer's job to have a go at the Officials, he or
       she just need to debrief the Officials, point to strengths and
       development opportunities, watch match footage and write report.
       Its the job of Referee's Coach to do the informal debrief.
       [/quote]
       I tried to take the emotion out of it, but honestly I couldn’t
       do much else! As a fellow ref, I thought he was extremely poor
       and not up to the correct standard that the EFL need. The
       previous Crewe v Salford games have been very feisty. They need
       more experienced refs on it in the future, Darren Drysdale etc.
       I’ve got to be honest, I did think it was the Observer’s job to
       have a go at the officials. So obviously I am wrong. Whoever the
       ref coach is, needs to be having strong words.
       [/quote]
       Of course, you were entitled to shared your opinion.  To be
       fair, your assessment of matches were informative and good to
       read.  I'm only pointing to the obvious from your first
       paragraph.  I hope his observation report reflect his overall
       poor performance.
       [/quote]
       Thank you. I do try to keep it as neutral as possible but
       sometimes it can be very hard especially after today’s showing.
       #Post#: 84012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: TVOS Date: October 19, 2024, 4:28 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83987#msg83987
       date=1729362310]
       [quote author=aaa link=topic=6346.msg83984#msg83984
       date=1729361691]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       While your assessment of the match is informative, it would be
       good to take the emotion out of it.  So rather than write as an
       angry fan, try to analyse his performance as a fellow Referee.
       All the competencies.
       Oh, it not Observer's job to have a go at the Officials, he or
       she just need to debrief the Officials, point to strengths and
       development opportunities, watch match footage and write report.
       Its the job of Referee's Coach to do the informal debrief.
       [/quote]
       I tried to take the emotion out of it, but honestly I couldn’t
       do much else! As a fellow ref, I thought he was extremely poor
       and not up to the correct standard that the EFL need. The
       previous Crewe v Salford games have been very feisty. They need
       more experienced refs on it in the future, Darren Drysdale etc.
       I’ve got to be honest, I did think it was the Observer’s job to
       have a go at the officials. So obviously I am wrong. Whoever the
       ref coach is, needs to be having strong words.
       [/quote]
       You're not being serious if you're asking for Darren Drysdale...
       #Post#: 84013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: rustyref Date: October 19, 2024, 4:30 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       So on that basis, if you have a bad day at work would you expect
       your boss to "have a right go at you"?  Or would you expect to
       be given constructive criticism detailing exactly what was wrong
       with your performance?  There's a very big difference between
       the two.
       #Post#: 84017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: Ryanellis Date: October 19, 2024, 4:39 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=6346.msg83983#msg83983
       date=1729361606]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       Yes, I did get there and yes, I agree with everything you have
       said. An excellent post in my view. I was hoping to see a win
       for Crewe (in my case for the first time in 2024) + a good
       performance from Sunny, but in the end, I saw neither. OK, the
       referee is ultimately not responsible for the conduct of the
       players on the field, but Sunny's lack of consistency made it
       easy for the players to engage in pushing and shoving, tripping
       and and endless squabbling, knowing that they would probably get
       away with it, which they did in most instances. I was
       particularly incensed when a Crewe player was hacked down in the
       first half and Sunny looked as though he was playing an
       advantage (which wasn't there) but then failed to pull play back
       when the advantage didn't materialise and, even worse, failed to
       caution the Salford player when play was next stopped. A caution
       was correctly given for kicking the ball away, but this was the
       third such instance. And, as for the late penalty shout for
       Crewe, how that was not a penalty, I really don't know. I
       disagree with you in one respect only, I don't think the Salford
       goal was offside, rather a lack of basic defending and a Salford
       player who was quick off the mark to latch on to a ball through
       the middle and score with some ease. At the end, and with both
       sets of fans chanting "you're not fit to referee", I thought
       back to last season and wondered why and how it had all gone
       wrong for Sunny. Perhaps some words of advice from his dad would
       be better than an observer's comments on this performance which
       was frankly not good enough.
       [/quote]
       Thank you for your post. I thought it was offside at the time,
       and then I saw a screenshot on twitter (X) and it shows it to be
       offside but I stand corrected because the camera of course isn’t
       in line with the attacker.
       #Post#: 84018--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: Ryanellis Date: October 19, 2024, 4:41 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=TVOS link=topic=6346.msg84012#msg84012
       date=1729373280]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83987#msg83987
       date=1729362310]
       [quote author=aaa link=topic=6346.msg83984#msg83984
       date=1729361691]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       While your assessment of the match is informative, it would be
       good to take the emotion out of it.  So rather than write as an
       angry fan, try to analyse his performance as a fellow Referee.
       All the competencies.
       Oh, it not Observer's job to have a go at the Officials, he or
       she just need to debrief the Officials, point to strengths and
       development opportunities, watch match footage and write report.
       Its the job of Referee's Coach to do the informal debrief.
       [/quote]
       I tried to take the emotion out of it, but honestly I couldn’t
       do much else! As a fellow ref, I thought he was extremely poor
       and not up to the correct standard that the EFL need. The
       previous Crewe v Salford games have been very feisty. They need
       more experienced refs on it in the future, Darren Drysdale etc.
       I’ve got to be honest, I did think it was the Observer’s job to
       have a go at the officials. So obviously I am wrong. Whoever the
       ref coach is, needs to be having strong words.
       [/quote]
       You're not being serious if you're asking for Darren Drysdale...
       [/quote]
       Not actually being serious for Darren Drysdale, he was the first
       person to come to my head when I thought of “experienced”!
       #Post#: 84019--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: Ryanellis Date: October 19, 2024, 4:43 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=rustyref link=topic=6346.msg84013#msg84013
       date=1729373430]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       So on that basis, if you have a bad day at work would you expect
       your boss to "have a right go at you"?  Or would you expect to
       be given constructive criticism detailing exactly what was wrong
       with your performance?  There's a very big difference between
       the two.
       [/quote]
       I’m not trying to say that though. I’m saying that his
       performance wasn’t acceptable to any standard. And he may or may
       not know that. Therefore, the Referee coach has to tell him this
       and the areas of improvement. You can’t be performing like that,
       even at youth level.
       #Post#: 84021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 18th – Wed 23rd OCT 2024
       By: rustyref Date: October 19, 2024, 5:00 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg84019#msg84019
       date=1729374197]
       [quote author=rustyref link=topic=6346.msg84013#msg84013
       date=1729373430]
       [quote author=Ryanellis link=topic=6346.msg83981#msg83981
       date=1729359628]
       Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Salford City FC (First Team)
       Football League 2
       Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
       Assistant Referee: Williams, Ollie
       Assistant Referee: Wilding, Darren
       Fourth Official: Felton, Niall
       I am going to try to keep my cool writing this but I do not want
       to see Sunny referee a Crewe game again. Ever. He was absolutely
       awful, for both sides. On a number of times, everyone was left
       confused to what he had given. All 3 yellows, all for Salford,
       were correctly established and that’s the only bit of praise
       that I’m going to give him. Well done to the Crewe players who
       kept their discipline, because I certainly wouldn’t have
       playing. Not only Sunny, but AR2 as well. The Salford goal
       looked offside to me, and I was more a less inline with it. Back
       to Sunny now. Inconsistent for both sides with fouls given and
       not. Crewe should’ve had a penalty late on in the second half
       for the most blatant push you’ll ever see. Only 3 mins were
       added on second half, and that was appalling in itself. The
       amount of stoppages that happened in this half, mounted to at
       least 7 mins added. He lost control of the game basically from
       half time onwards. He booked our manager for something I don’t
       know(probably for moaning, won’t have been surprised tbf). How
       Karl Robinson never got booked was so questionable. Every single
       time something went against him, he was in Niall’s (who looks
       and has the height of a 12 year old) ear. I lost count the
       amount of times Karl was talking to him. Even when a decision
       was in his favour, he still had something to complain about!!!
       Shocking. There’s a lot more I could say, but I don’t want it
       turning into an English essay so I’ll leave it as that.
       Final points, he should get a new whistle, it sounded awful. As
       the Crewe manager said in his interview “both sides were left
       appalled at some of the decisions.” How he got a premier league
       game beggars belief. Oh, I know why! For diversity. Whoever the
       assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny because that
       “performance” was far from acceptable. He was booed off, quite
       heavily, at full time. And I don’t blame the Crewe fans for
       that. A generous 1/10 rating. One of the worst I’ve ever seen at
       Gresty Road, and that’s with 2019 David Rock visiting…
       [/quote]
       So on that basis, if you have a bad day at work would you expect
       your boss to "have a right go at you"?  Or would you expect to
       be given constructive criticism detailing exactly what was wrong
       with your performance?  There's a very big difference between
       the two.
       [/quote]
       I’m not trying to say that though. I’m saying that his
       performance wasn’t acceptable to any standard. And he may or may
       not know that. Therefore, the Referee coach has to tell him this
       and the areas of improvement. You can’t be performing like that,
       even at youth level.
       [/quote]
       You literally said ...
       Whoever the assessor was, needs to have a right go at Sunny
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